Author Topic: 2021 NL East (Read 12959 times)

DCFan · « **Reply #25:** February 13, 2021, 07:46:50 PM »

https://sports.yahoo.com/mets-seth-lugo-needs-elbow-185129875.html

Seth Lugo will have surgery for bone spurs in his throwing shoulder. He will not be game ready until well into the season.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #26:** February 14, 2021, 12:04:43 PM »

Quote from: Natsinpwc on February 12, 2021, 09:40:37 AM

Looks like Bamboo Brad back to the Phillies.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/02/phillies-rumors-brad-miller.html

not yet a done deal.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #27:** February 14, 2021, 12:53:58 PM »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on February 14, 2021, 12:04:43 PM

not yet a done deal.

He’s requested exclusive rights to bamboo plants.

DCFan · « **Reply #28:** February 16, 2021, 10:05:40 AM »

Mets sign Kevin Pillar. Good bat but declining defense. Hello LF.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #29:** February 17, 2021, 10:18:36 PM »

Can’t believe he didn’t make it.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/30919955/new-york-mets-outfielder-tim-tebow-retiring-pro-baseball

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #30:** February 20, 2021, 04:37:01 PM »

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/02/mets-sign-taijuan-walker.html

2 years, $20 million

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #31:** March 23, 2021, 07:00:23 PM »

Don’t want to wish bad luck on anyone but this won’t help the Mets.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/03/mets-rumors-carlos-carrasco-mri-hamstring-injury.html

Count Walewski · « **Reply #32:** March 31, 2021, 09:30:58 AM »

Naming rights for Marlins Park has been sold to a mortgage company called loanDepot. Yes, that begins with a lowercase L. But that's not the headline here: the headline is that the park is going to be officially referred to as "loanDepot park" - that's right they are going to spell park with a lowercase p despite being a proper noun.

imref · « **Reply #33:** March 31, 2021, 09:43:55 AM »

Quote from: Count Walewski on March 31, 2021, 09:30:58 AM

Naming rights for Marlins Park has been sold to a mortgage company called loanDepot. Yes, that begins with a lowercase L. But that's not the headline here: the headline is that the park is going to be officially referred to as "loanDepot park" - that's right they are going to spell park with a lowercase p despite being a proper noun.

they really are trying to piss off the OCD crowd, aren't they?

bluestreak · « **Reply #34:** March 31, 2021, 11:23:31 PM »

Mets have a deal with Lindor. 10 years $341 dollars.

https://twitter.com/anthonydicomo/status/1377459761260732417?s=21

imref · « **Reply #35:** March 31, 2021, 11:30:00 PM »

Quote from: bluestreak on March 31, 2021, 11:23:31 PM

Mets have a deal with Lindor. 10 years $341 dollars.

https://twitter.com/anthonydicomo/status/1377459761260732417?s=21

bluestreak · « **Reply #36:** March 31, 2021, 11:33:44 PM »

Trea Turner and Trevor Story, you’re up...

varoadking · « **Reply #37:** March 31, 2021, 11:40:00 PM »

Quote from: bluestreak on March 31, 2021, 11:33:44 PM

Trea Turner and Trevor Story, you’re up...

Bye, Trea...it's been real..

Slateman · « **Reply #38:** April 01, 2021, 08:06:08 AM »

Quote from: bluestreak on March 31, 2021, 11:33:44 PM

Trea Turner and Trevor Story, you’re up...

If by Trea Turner, you mesn Carlos Correa

Kevrock · « **Reply #39:** April 01, 2021, 10:24:15 AM »

Quote from: bluestreak on March 31, 2021, 11:23:31 PM

Mets have a deal with Lindor. 10 years $341 dollars.

https://twitter.com/anthonydicomo/status/1377459761260732417?s=21

Not good for us.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #40:** April 01, 2021, 10:48:12 AM »

Quote from: Kevrock on April 01, 2021, 10:24:15 AM

Not good for us.

Meh.
Good player but 102 OPS+ last season. And you never know with injuries.

Slateman · « **Reply #41:** April 01, 2021, 11:03:48 AM »

Quote from: Natsinpwc on April 01, 2021, 10:48:12 AM

Meh.
Good player but 102 OPS+ last season. And you never know with injuries.

nfotiu · « **Reply #42:** April 01, 2021, 11:05:48 AM »

I can't see this turning out to be a good contract. I can't see him being an above average short stop for the last half of that contract.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #43:** April 01, 2021, 11:07:48 AM »

Quote from: Slateman on April 01, 2021, 11:03:48 AM

Yea. A 102 OPS+ is amusing.

I think signing an OF for 13 years makes more sense than a SS for 10 years. The owner is rich but at some point they have a budget also.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #44:** April 01, 2021, 11:09:04 AM »

Quote from: nfotiu on April 01, 2021, 11:05:48 AM

I can't see this turning out to be a good contract. I can't see him being an above average short stop for the last half of that contract.

My thoughts exactly.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #45:** April 01, 2021, 12:56:58 PM »

Lindor generates a lot more of his value from defense than the great SS generation of A-Rod, Jeter, Garciaparra, and Tejada. He needs to stick at SS until he's 34 or so and play well to make this an OK deal. As for Turner, the Nats weren't signing him this year, so the real market will be more set by the group of contracts that Seager, Story, etc... sign rather than this one alone. Also, let's see what the next collective bargaining agreement does. To me, this looks like Cohen not being risk averse.

Slateman · « **Reply #46:** April 01, 2021, 02:10:30 PM »

Quote from: Natsinpwc on April 01, 2021, 11:07:48 AM

Yea. A 102 OPS+ is amusing.

I think signing an OF for 13 years makes more sense than a SS for 10 years. The owner is rich but at some point they have a budget also.

Whats amusing is your lack of understanding. Dude is a 117 career OPS+ He is in the prime of what looks to be a hall of fame career.

And you're bringing up a 60 game sample size

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #47:** April 01, 2021, 02:15:16 PM »

Quote from: Slateman on April 01, 2021, 02:10:30 PM

Whats amusing is your lack of understanding. Dude is a 117 career OPS+ He is in the prime of what looks to be a hall of fame career.

And you're bringing up a 60 game sample size

Just happens to be the latest 60 game sample. Let’s see how he does in the pressure cooker of NYC. Many a free agent has faltered there.

Slateman · « **Reply #48:** April 01, 2021, 02:16:07 PM »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on April 01, 2021, 12:56:58 PM

Lindor generates a lot more of his value from defense than the great SS generation of A-Rod, Jeter, Garciaparra, and Tejada. He needs to stick at SS until he's 34 or so and play well to make this an OK deal. As for Turner, the Nats weren't signing him this year, so the real market will be more set by the group of contracts that Seager, Story, etc... sign rather than this one alone. Also, let's see what the next collective bargaining agreement does. To me, this looks like Cohen not being risk averse.

Lindor is already better than Tejada. Jeter's career wRC+ is 119, while Lindor is 117.

Lindor has had 30+ home run seasons in 3 out of the last 4 seasons. Not sure why anyone is trying to play him off as some sort of slap hitting, defensive first shortstop. He's not.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #49:** April 01, 2021, 02:28:58 PM »

Quote from: Slateman on April 01, 2021, 02:16:07 PM

Lindor is already better than Tejada. Jeter's career wRC+ is 119, while Lindor is 117.

Lindor has had 30+ home run seasons in 3 out of the last 4 seasons. Not sure why anyone is trying to play him off as some sort of slap hitting, defensive first shortstop. He's not.

compare his offensive numbers by age through age 27 to that '90s group. He's well below all of them. If you want to call him a plus bat, I'm going to say you are a smart man, but his D along with his O is what makes his case. I'll take Story's bat going forward, but he doesn't give you the D. If they are both 3rd basemen in 6 years, Story will have higher value at that time, but I'll guess Lindor stays at SS 3-4 years longer than Story.

Note- edited to remove stupid point. Story's defense is fine. Seager is closer to an average fielder with a bigger bat