Author Topic: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!  (Read 2458 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline DCFan

  • Posts: 16720
  • What are you dense?
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #75: January 12, 2021, 03:39:41 PM »
yes, which didn't please Davey.

When he stands next to Schwarber he'll look like a little kid. :mg:

Offline GburgNatsFan

  • Posts: 21794
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #76: January 12, 2021, 08:28:13 PM »
When he stands next to Schwarber he'll look like a little kid. :mg:

A fast freaking gold glove candiate little kid. I mean, assuming he gives up on the home run champ bulk body.

Offline JCA-CrystalCity

  • Global Moderator
  • ****
  • Posts: 31194
  • Platoon - not just a movie, a baseball obsession
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #77: January 16, 2021, 12:27:53 PM »
Per Cot's, our CBT charge is $10MM for 2021.  With his option for 2022 worth $11.5MM, with the $3MM buyout charged to 2021, I guess the hit next year is $8.5MM, or somehow at the end of this year, if we pick up his option, maybe we get credit against 2021 (maybe $9.25MM each year?). On a mutual option, does he get to keep the $3MM if we choose to exercise our half and he declines?


Offline aspenbubba

  • Posts: 4891
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #79: January 30, 2021, 06:53:04 AM »
I’m going on record that we  overpaid for Schwarber and I would have preferred Pedersen at 7 M or Rosario at 8 M

Online Five Banners

  • Posts: 1300
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #80: January 30, 2021, 11:38:00 AM »
I’m going on record that we  overpaid for Schwarber and I would have preferred Pedersen at 7 M or Rosario at 8 M

Well sure, few would prefer the most expensive option of comparable players, especially when one experienced the greatest dip in production in the last season.  The amount of overpay doesn’t seem to be the deciding factor on long term flexibility, and it wasn’t known with the beginning of the free agent period how many were going to end up with one year deals.  The guy coming here has a relationship with the manager, and Rizzo wanted to act quickly.  If it doesn’t work, it’s set up to limit long-term consequences. It is what it is.

Offline JCA-CrystalCity

  • Global Moderator
  • ****
  • Posts: 31194
  • Platoon - not just a movie, a baseball obsession
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #81: April 12, 2021, 09:37:11 PM »
the Cream rises to the top in his first game back!


Offline bluestreak

  • Posts: 10776
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #82: April 17, 2021, 01:43:03 AM »
Statcast of Schwarber’s walkoff. Notice the players leaving the field. And right fielder making token effort apparently to make the pitcher feel better.




Offline JCA-CrystalCity

  • Global Moderator
  • ****
  • Posts: 31194
  • Platoon - not just a movie, a baseball obsession
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #85: April 17, 2021, 01:47:15 PM »
2nd longest in team history

https://www.masnsports.com/nationals-pastime/2021/04/another-look-at-the-schwarbomb-by-the-numbers.html
at Nats Park.  How far did Soto's at Citifield go last year?  Also, what about his bomb at Houston in the WS

Offline imref

  • Posts: 34080
  • Redemption
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #86: April 17, 2021, 02:33:41 PM »
at Nats Park.  How far did Soto's at Citifield go last year?  Also, what about his bomb at Houston in the WS

Longest in team history is MAT in 2015 at Coors, 493’

Offline JCA-CrystalCity

  • Global Moderator
  • ****
  • Posts: 31194
  • Platoon - not just a movie, a baseball obsession
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #87: April 17, 2021, 03:18:11 PM »
Longest in team history is MAT in 2015 at Coors, 493’
well, once you adjust for the park, it's really a single.

Offline imref

  • Posts: 34080
  • Redemption
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #88: April 17, 2021, 04:02:02 PM »
well, once you adjust for the park, it's really a single.

Bunt single :)

Offline imref

  • Posts: 34080
  • Redemption
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #89: April 20, 2021, 08:59:33 AM »
.235   .257   .412, 10Ks in 35 ABs.  Ugh.

Offline UMDNats

  • Posts: 17196
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #90: April 20, 2021, 09:00:57 AM »
I know the COVID layoff affected these guys but Kyle & Bell look like dogcrap out there.

Offline nfotiu

  • Posts: 4156
  • Juan Soto aka Human Wildcat
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #91: April 20, 2021, 09:02:04 AM »
.235   .257   .412, 10Ks in 35 ABs.  Ugh.
All the guys who missed COVID time are sucking.   Well, except Harrison.   Probably best to give them all another week or two before panicking   

Online Slateman

  • Posts: 56895
  • THE SUMMONER OF THE REVERSE JINX
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #92: April 20, 2021, 09:21:58 AM »
Meanwhile, Adam Eaton is outhitting all of our outfielders

Offline imref

  • Posts: 34080
  • Redemption
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #93: April 20, 2021, 10:31:49 AM »
Meanwhile, Adam Eaton is outhitting all of our outfielders

Yeah, I don't think there's any case to be made yet that Schwarber is an upgrade.

Offline JCA-CrystalCity

  • Global Moderator
  • ****
  • Posts: 31194
  • Platoon - not just a movie, a baseball obsession
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #94: April 20, 2021, 11:16:56 AM »
.235   .257   .412, 10Ks in 35 ABs.  Ugh.
hmmm . . . what does TTO look like turns into the one true bad outcome?  The average is not far off his career but the .257 OBP is a killer as is the .175 ISO. The K rate is spot on career average.  You bought that K rate when you signed him.  He's looked passable in the field, FWIW.

If Bell and Schwarber don't hit for power, then the batting order is mortally wounded. 

Offline Lazarchick 31

  • Posts: 123
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #95: April 20, 2021, 12:40:10 PM »
hmmm . . . what does TTO look like turns into the one true bad outcome?  The average is not far off his career but the .257 OBP is a killer as is the .175 ISO. The K rate is spot on career average.  You bought that K rate when you signed him.  He's looked passable in the field, FWIW.

If Bell and Schwarber don't hit for power, then the batting order is mortally wounded.

Schwarber was a good signing IF he wasn't relied on as one of THE major adds to the lineup. He would be a decent compliment to a legit hitter or two being added here. The issue is Rizzo signed him expecting him to surpass career norms and over perform. Same with Bell. Bell has been a dumpster fire at the plate. Rizzo played a dangerous (dumb) game and is now being burnt massively because of it. Sad part is it's not like you couldn't see this coming.

Offline Natsinpwc

  • Posts: 19086
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #96: April 20, 2021, 01:05:02 PM »
Schwarber was a good signing IF he wasn't relied on as one of THE major adds to the lineup. He would be a decent compliment to a legit hitter or two being added here. The issue is Rizzo signed him expecting him to surpass career norms and over perform. Same with Bell. Bell has been a dumpster fire at the plate. Rizzo played a dangerous (dumb) game and is now being burnt massively because of it. Sad part is it's not like you couldn't see this coming.
They had two holes to fill. Really three counting third base. If you sign one big contract like Springer then you have no money for Bell or Schwarber or probably even Lester. At this point the farm system has run dry and it’s caught up to the Nats. Robles not producing. Kieboom a bust. Can’t buy their way out of it.

Offline JCA-CrystalCity

  • Global Moderator
  • ****
  • Posts: 31194
  • Platoon - not just a movie, a baseball obsession
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #97: April 20, 2021, 02:18:57 PM »
They had two holes to fill. Really three counting third base. If you sign one big contract like Springer then you have no money for Bell or Schwarber or probably even Lester. At this point the farm system has run dry and it’s caught up to the Nats. Robles not producing. Kieboom a bust. Can’t buy their way out of it.
even within the context of their constraints, they wasted money.  Brantley was a $15MM a year signing and was only an age risk.  His performance was high level.  Rosario was a cheaper signing and is playing better, Pedersen cheaper but just about as bad.  Enrique HErnandez was a righty but a better signing, as would have been Adam Duvall. Bell arguably was a decent move, but La Stella would have filled a bigger need. could have had la stella and Duvall for $1.25 million more than Schwarber alone. 

Offline varoadking

  • Posts: 28286
  • King of Goodness
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #98: April 20, 2021, 02:33:53 PM »

Never should have let AE go...that was mistake #1...

Offline GburgNatsFan

  • Posts: 21794
Re: Schwarber, the Cream of LF options!
« Reply #99: April 20, 2021, 09:20:38 PM »
Never should have let AE go...that was mistake #1...

How much is he making? Oh, one year, $8M.