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Re: Hot Stove 2020-21 (non-Nats)
« Reply #100: December 08, 2020, 07:40:13 PM »
Amazing what happens when you sell high on a player
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Re: Hot Stove 2020-21 (non-Nats)
« Reply #101: December 10, 2020, 08:35:34 AM »
Mets are pursuing Liam Hendricks.  Is there anyone they are not trying to sign?

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Re: Hot Stove 2020-21 (non-Nats)
« Reply #102: December 10, 2020, 12:13:19 PM »
Mets are pursuing Liam Hendricks.  Is there anyone they are not trying to sign?
Probably not. Kind of embarrassing that they aren't good, given how much talent they have. I don't see them bailing on Diaz so quickly. They need to grab some more starting pitching and put Lugo back in the pen.

But they have money and they're a huge market. They should be competitive year in and year out.

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Re: Hot Stove 2020-21 (non-Nats)
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Re: Hot Stove 2020-21 (non-Nats)
« Reply #105: December 10, 2020, 02:23:13 PM »
do they have any prospects he can trade?
Actually no. Not good ones anyway.

I wonder if they are giving him a small ownership share?

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Re: Hot Stove 2020-21 (non-Nats)
« Reply #106: December 10, 2020, 07:33:35 PM »
https://twitter.com/jaysonst/status/1337113563693985792?s=21

Dombrowski to the Phils?

Well, Cora is unavailable, maybe he'll bring Beltran in...

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Re: Hot Stove 2020-21 (non-Nats)
« Reply #108: December 10, 2020, 08:12:02 PM »
So he will raze the franchise, leaving it utterly bereft of prospects and cash. The only question is will it end in a title (Marlins/Red Sox) or disappointment (Tigers). 


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Re: Hot Stove 2020-21 (non-Nats)
« Reply #110: December 11, 2020, 07:36:04 AM »
I think this ends any questions about the Phillies financial situation

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« Reply #111: December 11, 2020, 07:45:53 AM »
I think this ends any questions about the Phillies financial situation
Why do you say that?  Dombrowski has sold off assets before in Florida and Detroit.

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Re: Hot Stove 2020-21 (non-Nats)
« Reply #112: December 11, 2020, 07:49:48 AM »
Why do you say that?  Dombrowski has sold off assets before in Florida and Detroit.
Dombrowski isn't taking a job for a firesale. He's there to build a winner.

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Re: Hot Stove 2020-21 (non-Nats)
« Reply #113: December 11, 2020, 07:51:54 AM »
Dombrowski isn't taking a job for a firesale. He's there to build a winner.
Doesn’t mean that they will automatically sign Realmuto either. Or that they won’t trade a wheeler to restock the farm system. I suspect they are giving him some ownership of the team so it’s a long term deal for him. 

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Re: Hot Stove 2020-21 (non-Nats)
« Reply #114: December 11, 2020, 07:55:47 AM »
Phillies and McCann?  Maybe just to screw the Mets.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1337206756871725062?s=20They

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Re: Hot Stove 2020-21 (non-Nats)
« Reply #115: December 11, 2020, 08:09:43 AM »
Doesn’t mean that they will automatically sign Realmuto either. Or that they won’t trade a wheeler to restock the farm system. I suspect they are giving him some ownership of the team so it’s a long term deal for him.

Dombrowski restock the farm system? 


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Re: Hot Stove 2020-21 (non-Nats)
« Reply #116: December 11, 2020, 08:14:28 AM »
Doesn’t mean that they will automatically sign Realmuto either. Or that they won’t trade a wheeler to restock the farm system. I suspect they are giving him some ownership of the team so it’s a long term deal for him. 
Dombrowski restock the farm system? 

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« Reply #118: December 11, 2020, 08:31:54 AM »
Didn’t Dombrowski build the Expos farm system while there? Didn’t he also preside over the Marlins fire sale of veterans for prospects after they won the World Series? Or was that another Dave Dombrowski? He’s taken different approaches in different places.

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« Reply #120: December 11, 2020, 08:40:11 AM »
And they have the worst record in baseball since then
I didn’t say he was successful at it. You said his hiring ensured there was no way the Phillies would do it. 
It’s not the worst hire they could have made.  He has taken different approaches in different places. Several works series appearances. Better than McFAIL.

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Re: Hot Stove 2020-21 (non-Nats)
« Reply #121: December 11, 2020, 08:51:00 AM »
I didn’t say he was successful at it. You said his hiring ensured there was no way the Phillies would do it. 
It’s not the worst hire they could have made.  He has taken different approaches in different places. Several works series appearances. Better than McFAIL.
That was his last season with Detroit.

He ain't taking the gig to not compete

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Re: Hot Stove 2020-21 (non-Nats)
« Reply #122: December 11, 2020, 09:09:01 AM »
That was his last season with Detroit.

He ain't taking the gig to not compete

And at 64 he's not looking to compete far into the future.

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Re: Hot Stove 2020-21 (non-Nats)
« Reply #123: December 11, 2020, 09:20:35 AM »
Dombrowski is being brought in as President of Baseball Operations. To rebuild the organization. Which by definition means he is not being hired not just for short term moves.

Can’t read the whole article but have seen some quotes beyond the first two paragraphs. He’s being brought in to redo the organization.

https://theathletic.com/2254117/2020/12/11/dave-dombrowski-phillies-leadership/%3famp


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Re: Hot Stove 2020-21 (non-Nats)
« Reply #124: December 11, 2020, 12:32:20 PM »
They can't go into a rebuild in year 3 of Bryce, but also have a bad team and few prospects. I expect him to try to load them up again but that's all they've been doing recently so should be more of the same.