2020-21 Offseason

[CoryTheFormerExposFan]

Give me J. Turner on a 2 year deal and call it a day!!

Think he's going back to LA, but I'd love to have him.  Just don't see it.  I think we're basically waiting to see how things play out, then potentially make a move or 2 in June/July.

[aspenbubba]

1. Turner
2. Castro
3. Soto
4. Bell
5. Schwarber
6. Gomes
7. Kieboom
8. Robles

Bench (5): Zimmerman, Stevenson, Harrison, Avila
*My guess is Swihart makes the team as the 26th guy.

Rotation:

1. Scherzer
2. Strasburg
3. Corbin
4. Lester
5. Ross

Bullpen (8 guys)

Long=Fedde or Voth...think Fedde has an option so that may determine who makes the team Opening Day
LH=Clay or another addition like Doo
RH Middle=Suero/Finnegan
Late=Harris/Hudson/Rainey/Hand

What about McGowin. I thought he did well.

[CoryTheFormerExposFan]

What about McGowin. I thought he did well.

I made the 26-man as I see it, but you always end up using a lot of bullpen guys due to injuries, both minor and major.  He'll probably pitch some big league innings at some point.

[Expos]

There is no way Rizzo goes into the year with Kieboom as the starting 3B.

[imref]

There is no way Rizzo goes into the year with Kieboom as the starting 3B.

Garcia could take the job in ST.

[Natsinpwc]

There is no way Rizzo goes into the year with Kieboom as the starting 3B.

I wouldn't bet against it. 

[UMDNats]

Two veteran catchers with experience calling games for HoF pitchers and having significant postseason success doesnt inspire confidence?

At this point I'm not convinced we'll get more than .700 OPS out of the catcher spot and Robles is 50/50 to do it himself at CF

[blue911]

Give me J. Turner on a 2 year deal and call it a day!!

I wouldn’t have a problem with signing Turner.

[aspenbubba]

If Rizzo continues to be creative like the  contract with Lester ( money this year and the remainder being paid in 2023) he could do the same with Justin Turner. Minimal acceptable $ in 21 & 22 and the remainder being paid in 24 & 25. Both contracts seem to be structured that after the last year there is a year bypassed to negotiate another year extension based upon the most RECENT past performance with the Nats. This seems to be very appropriate for aging players.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Avila-Gomes doesn't exactly inspire much confidence.

Take a look at their platoon splits.  Combined, we are going to get 100 OPS+ out of catcher, which is positive for that position.  Both are plus defenders.  Avila has caught Scherzer more than any other catcher over Scherzer's career, and has caught Corbin 14 times. 

[CoryTheFormerExposFan]

Take a look at their platoon splits.  Combined, we are going to get 100 OPS+ out of catcher, which is positive for that position.  Both are plus defenders.  Avila has caught Scherzer more than any other catcher over Scherzer's career, and has caught Corbin 14 times.

Exactly.  Platoon splits allows you to cobble together 1 solid player's production out of 2 flawed players.  Assuming Zim still mashes lefties, his numbers this year should look great as well.

[CoryTheFormerExposFan]

Well we wouldn't need to trade any top prospects.  Would we take the salary on?  Maybe subsequently we'd have to shed payroll with another deal?  Maybe Harris or Hudson?

https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/1355223294622969857?s=19

[Slateman]

Well we wouldn't need to trade any top prospects.  Would we take the salary on?  Maybe subsequently we'd have to shed payroll with another deal?  Maybe Harris or Hudson?

https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/1355223294622969857?s=19

No

[imref]

Well we wouldn't need to trade any top prospects.  Would we take the salary on?  Maybe subsequently we'd have to shed payroll with another deal?  Maybe Harris or Hudson?

https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/1355223294622969857?s=19

we can only dream.  That would be a transformational signing. 

[Five Banners]

we can only dream.  That would be a transformational signing.

Especially if he opted out

[Slateman]

Especially if he opted out

Sure. While we're pipe dreaming, maybe we can trade for Rendon back

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Well we wouldn't need to trade any top prospects.  Would we take the salary on?  Maybe subsequently we'd have to shed payroll with another deal?  Maybe Harris or Hudson?

https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/1355223294622969857?s=19

he's better than Springer and a year plus younger, so I would say he's closer to $30MM AAV were he to hit the market than $25MM that Springer was, but with the opt out, you might ask Colorado for $30MM, with a chunk contingent on him not opting out. I don't think there's enough you could move off the roster to stay below the CBT threshold this year.

Him Opting out is probably unlikely in this market. Bringing him in means you lose Turner in two years if he does not opt out. Even with a lot of money rolling off the books after 2021, I don't see a way this works financially.  Would rather trade for Suarez if I were getting greedy.

[Lazarchick 31]

he's better than Springer and a year plus younger, so I would say he's closer to $30MM AAV were he to hit the market than $25MM that Springer was, but with the opt out, you might ask Colorado for $30MM, with a chunk contingent on him not opting out. I don't think there's enough you could move off the roster to stay below the CBT threshold this year.

Him Opting out is probably unlikely in this market. Bringing him in means you lose Turner in two years if he does not opt out. Even with a lot of money rolling off the books after 2021, I don't see a way this works financially.  Would rather trade for Suarez if I were getting greedy.

Justin Turner makes too much sense for this team right now to not happen. The team is looking to win/contend now. Kieboom/Garcia winner take all for 3B doesn't fit with that. Turner on a 2 year deal does perfectly.

1. Reliable bat (which Schwarber and Bell aren't)
2. Let's Kieboom and Garcia come along at their own pace
3. Winner of #2 can take over for Castro after this year at 2B
4. Loser of #2 is still looked at as someone that's trade bait.

I feel like Kieboom's trade value is teetering. If he doesn't show sign of life this year it's pretty much meh after that. Im a full believer of if someone is meant for a lineup they'll force their way into it.

[Five Banners]

Justin Turner makes too much sense for this team right now to not happen. The team is looking to win/contend now. Kieboom/Garcia winner take all for 3B doesn't fit with that. Turner on a 2 year deal does perfectly.

1. Reliable bat (which Schwarber and Bell aren't)
2. Let's Kieboom and Garcia come along at their own pace
3. Winner of #2 can take over for Castro after this year at 2B
4. Loser of #2 is still looked at as someone that's trade bait.

I feel like Kieboom's trade value is teetering. If he doesn't show sign of life this year it's pretty much meh after that. Im a full believer of if someone is meant for a lineup they'll force their way into it.

It also comes down to whether the Dodgers and Turner reconnect, which appears more likely than his arrival here

[Lazarchick 31]

It also comes down to whether the Dodgers and Turner reconnect, which appears more likely than his arrival here

I don't believe in any way shape or form we are front runners for him. But it makes me question why LA hasn't locked him up yet. Last I read there was 3 teams besides LA making offers. I'd like to believe we are one of them.

[Mattionals]

I don't believe in any way shape or form we are front runners for him. But it makes me question why LA hasn't locked him up yet. Last I read there was 3 teams besides LA making offers. I'd like to believe we are one of them.

Last I saw on MLBTR was that it was the years that J Turner and the Dodgers were not in agreement on. Turner originally was asking for 4 years and the Dodgers weren't interested beyond 2 years.

I have a hard time seeing a 36 year old player getting 4 years. 3 is really, really, pushing it.

[Lazarchick 31]

Last I saw on MLBTR was that it was the years that J Turner and the Dodgers were not in agreement on. Turner originally was asking for 4 years and the Dodgers weren't interested beyond 2 years.

I have a hard time seeing a 36 year old player getting 4 years. 3 is really, really, pushing it.

Says Braves are now in the mix. Would really hate to see him there.  Funny thing is for his age he's held up really well at the plate.

[DCFan]

Says Braves are now in the mix. Would really hate to see him there.  Funny thing is for his age he's held up really well at the plate.

And why not since they seem to be in such a free wheeling spend spend spend mood.

[Greg_SRT]

Id be more comfortable with Carter at 3b than Ross & Company at #5. If one of the four go down, it is Ross & Company at #4 and 5. Not good.

Get another SP on cheap, someone on the rebound. Someone that is doing a session to prove they still got it. Sign em and start the season.

[Sirjesse]

I was looking around, Maikel Franco and Jonathan schoop still out there if kolten Wong and Justin turner would not work out. Franco or schoop would look real nice in the six or seven slot in front of or behind Castro.