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West coast fires
« Topic Start: September 12, 2020, 01:02:24 AM »
This is unreal

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/6329d5e4e13748b9b9f7f33f06a3c376/

There were reports earlier of 500k under evacuation orders in Oregon but it’s actually 40k with 500k told to be ready to evacuate if necessary.

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Re: West coast fires
« Reply #1: September 12, 2020, 09:25:32 AM »
AllCoastsMatter

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Re: West coast fires
« Reply #2: September 12, 2020, 09:28:29 AM »
Should have raked better

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Re: West coast fires
« Reply #4: September 12, 2020, 10:17:54 AM »
everyone's a comedian these days...

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Re: West coast fires
« Reply #5: September 12, 2020, 10:31:49 AM »
everyone's a comedian these days...

I'm trying not to get political here but halfsmokes is right on the money. The environmentalists got the state governments to stop the practice of clearing out the dead trees and brush. So we have all this fuel laying there waiting to be ignited.

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Re: West coast fires
« Reply #6: September 12, 2020, 11:02:17 AM »
I'm trying not to get political here but halfsmokes is right on the money. The environmentalists got the state governments to stop the practice of clearing out the dead trees and brush. So we have all this fuel laying there waiting to be ignited.
you got a degree in forestry?

The policy of fighting all fires led to major fires with built ip kindling. That, and consistent, persistent heat dry out the trees and forests.

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« Reply #7: September 12, 2020, 11:08:52 AM »
you got a degree in forestry?

Data Processing Management. :mg:

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Re: West coast fires
« Reply #8: September 12, 2020, 11:13:28 AM »
The policy of fighting all fires led to major fires with built ip kindling. That, and consistent, persistent heat dry out the trees and forests.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/08/08/active-forest-management-prevent-wildfires-column/913801002/

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Re: West coast fires
« Reply #9: September 12, 2020, 11:13:46 AM »
The real issue is that we should not have so many houses near forests in climates where you have so much dry weather. Same as people shouldn’t be building houses in flood or hurricane zones.  Mother Nature shows no remorse.


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Re: West coast fires
« Reply #11: September 12, 2020, 11:25:00 AM »
The real issue is that we should not have so many houses near forests in climates where you have so much dry weather. Same as people shouldn’t be building houses in flood or hurricane zones.  Mother Nature shows no remorse.

This, also DCfan has a point- forests periodically burn, we now stamp out any fire, so the ones we don’t get to have an enormous amount of fuel

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Re: West coast fires
« Reply #12: September 12, 2020, 11:37:32 AM »
This, also DCfan has a point- forests periodically burn, we now stamp out any fire, so the ones we don’t get to have an enormous amount of fuel
So better raking needed.

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« Reply #15: September 12, 2020, 12:10:47 PM »
That's what Zinke's degree was in.  $

And?

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« Reply #17: September 12, 2020, 12:28:20 PM »
a ryan zinke op ed? Are you kidding me? What, you couldn't find something by James Watt or Becky Dunlop?

I wanted to get you a SME. :)

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Re: West coast fires
« Reply #18: September 12, 2020, 12:40:38 PM »
you got a degree in forestry?

The policy of fighting all fires led to major fires with built ip kindling. That, and consistent, persistent heat dry out the trees and forests.

Yep. There’s no single cause

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Re: West coast fires
« Reply #19: September 12, 2020, 12:45:48 PM »
Yep. There’s no single cause

Lightning
Arson
Carelessness
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Re: West coast fires
« Reply #20: September 12, 2020, 01:28:04 PM »
Lightning
Arson
Carelessness
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climate change
Lands policy
Interruption of normal fire cycle

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Re: West coast fires
« Reply #21: September 12, 2020, 01:33:19 PM »
climate change

I knew this one was coming.  The instant reason for any calamity....  :)

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Re: West coast fires
« Reply #22: September 12, 2020, 02:25:46 PM »
I knew this one was coming.  The instant reason for any calamity....  :)

It’s odd ain’t it?  For years climate scientists have been predicting that warming temps lead to larger fire risks, so obviously when their predictions come to pass it’s rock solid evidence that they were wrong, right? 

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« Reply #23: September 12, 2020, 02:52:51 PM »
It’s odd ain’t it?  For years climate scientists have been predicting that warming temps lead to larger fire risks, so obviously when their predictions come to pass it’s rock solid evidence that they were wrong, right? 

If I get any deeper in this it’ll be shipped to politics thread so I’ll bow out by saying climate change has been happening since God created us and the world we live in.  :bow:

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Re: West coast fires
« Reply #24: September 12, 2020, 03:24:32 PM »
If I get any deeper in this it’ll be shipped to politics thread so I’ll bow out by saying climate change has been happening since God created us and the world we live in.  :bow:

Yep. About as long as people have ignored or dismissed science.