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Offline JCA-CrystalCity

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #50: September 04, 2020, 08:45:47 PM »
So, what is the line on Crowe getting through 5 with a lead?
and we have the answer almost before the line went up

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #51: September 04, 2020, 08:47:28 PM »
and we have the answer almost before the line went up

Meanwhile, Dane Dunning is pitching for the White Sox.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #52: September 04, 2020, 08:48:29 PM »
So Crowe was another guy who threw mid 90s but is now a soft tossing nibbler.
I like Menhart as a coach, but our pitching development is pathetic.  And I haven't finished my 2d beer

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #53: September 04, 2020, 08:51:33 PM »
From balks to wild pitches to hitting the base with a line drive, I like it when the bad breaks go our way.
And GIDPs

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #54: September 04, 2020, 08:52:25 PM »
I like Menhart as a coach, but our pitching development is pathetic.  And I haven't finished my 2d beer

What strikes me is that our pitching development is non-existent.  In normal times, I go to a lot of A-ball games and then don't see these guys much or at all until they're in MLB.

But the pitchers look like freaking same as they did in the Carolina League.  Same strengths, same weaknesses.  No improved command, no smoother or more repeatable deliveries, no improved secondaries, no additional pitches.  That's the complete opposite of what you see with other teams. 

Just one example because he's pitching tonight for the Dodgers - I saw Dustin May in high-A two summers ago.  Even though it's barely been two years, in that time he's added an effective cutter, more command on his curveball, and he's added velo across the board.   And he was already one of the most advanced pitchers I've ever seen in high-A.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #55: September 04, 2020, 08:54:27 PM »
What strikes me is that our pitching development is non-existent.  In normal times, I go to a lot of A-ball games and then don't see these guys much or at all until they're in MLB.

But the pitchers look like freaking same as they did in the Carolina League.  Same strengths, same weaknesses.  No improved command, no smoother or more repeatable deliveries, no improved secondaries, no additional pitches.  That's the complete opposite of what you see with other teams.
Not quite. They all seem to throw 2-3 MPH slower when they reach the bigs.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #56: September 04, 2020, 08:55:09 PM »
What strikes me is that our pitching development is non-existent.  In normal times, I go to a lot of A-ball games and then don't see these guys much or at all until they're in MLB.

But the pitchers look like freaking same as they did in the Carolina League.  Same strengths, same weaknesses.  No improved command, no smoother or more repeatable deliveries, no improved secondaries, no additional pitches.  That's the complete opposite of what you see with other teams.
So why do like him as a coach?
Oops directed to wrong poster.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #57: September 04, 2020, 08:56:32 PM »
So why do like him as a coach?

I don't, especially.  That was JCA who said that.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #58: September 04, 2020, 08:57:30 PM »
I don't, especially.  That was JCA who said that.
Yep tried to correct it not in time.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #59: September 04, 2020, 08:58:35 PM »
Yep tried to correct it not in time.

No worries.  It's Friday night, and even jerks like me relax then.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #60: September 04, 2020, 09:02:11 PM »
I don't, especially.  That was JCA who said that.
mostly, he seemed to be a lot better than the guy who started last year  who stunk. Menhart seemed to communicate well

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #61: September 04, 2020, 09:05:33 PM »
How many people are googling Herman Munster and baseball right now? :mg:

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #62: September 04, 2020, 09:10:23 PM »
Finnegan may never winnagain.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #63: September 04, 2020, 09:12:47 PM »
Finnegan may never winnagain.
Whole pitching staff seem to not know where their catcher is located

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #64: September 04, 2020, 09:14:40 PM »
Uhoh.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #65: September 04, 2020, 09:15:19 PM »
As I expected.

Offline Elvir Ovcina

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #66: September 04, 2020, 09:15:52 PM »
That's amazing.  A grand slam in a four-run game. And it was even Freeman.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #67: September 04, 2020, 09:16:41 PM »
Why were they dicking around with Swanson when Freddie Krueger was on deck?

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #68: September 04, 2020, 09:17:54 PM »
Why were they dicking around with Swanson when Freddie Krueger was on deck?
You mean Herman Munster.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #69: September 04, 2020, 09:18:11 PM »
Apparently that's Freeman's first career grand slam.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #70: September 04, 2020, 09:18:31 PM »
FP has stated many times the Freeman likes the ball low in the zone, soooo where does Rainey pitch him?

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #71: September 04, 2020, 09:19:48 PM »
Crowe was never a hard thrower.   Waste of a draft pick.   

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #72: September 04, 2020, 09:20:54 PM »
How the hell did this team that is not much different then last season win a World Series?  I almost wish they would lose out the rest of the games for a special losing season

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #73: September 04, 2020, 09:21:08 PM »
Poof.  dave should have just let Crowe stay in until he gave up 7 runs.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #74: September 04, 2020, 09:21:14 PM »
Crowe was never a hard thrower.   Waste of a draft pick.

He was pretty consistently 91-92 in the low minors, with movement.  That's enough if you have secondary pitches to go with it.   The problem is development, not the talent level of the guys coming in.