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Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Topic Start: July 21, 2020, 05:36:28 PM »
BALTIMORE ORIOLES at WASHINGTON NATIONALS
Where: Nationals Park
Gametime: 6:05 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: 106.7 FM, MLB.com
Weather: Chance of storms, 92 degrees, wind 6 mph out to left field
Preview - https://www.masnsports.com/nationals-pastime/2020/07/starting-lineups-nats-vs-orioles.html

NATIONALS
SS Trea Turner
RF Adam Eaton
LF Juan Soto
DH Howie Kendrick
1B Eric Thames
2B Starlin Castro
3B Carter Kieboom
C Yan Gomes
CF Victor Robles

LHP Patrick Corbin

ORIOLES
CF Austin Hays
2B Hanser Alberto
RF Anthony Santander
DH Renato Núñez
SS José Iglesias
C Pedro Severino
1B Chris Davis
LF Dilson Herrera
3B Rio Ruiz

RHP Kohl Stewart

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #1: July 21, 2020, 05:38:47 PM »
Nice to see Kieboom in there.

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #2: July 21, 2020, 06:58:30 PM »
Max should have had some fun and worn a marlins jersey. FP sounds hoarse. Hopefully no ‘rona

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #3: July 21, 2020, 07:19:33 PM »
Listening to Charlie and Dave. Good to hear their voices again.

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #4: July 21, 2020, 07:24:18 PM »
Just checking to see if I remember how to post.  80 year old men forget  lol

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #5: July 21, 2020, 07:53:10 PM »
Listening to Charlie and Dave. Good to hear their voices again.

FP has been great tonight.

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #6: July 21, 2020, 07:54:52 PM »
DOO!

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #7: July 21, 2020, 07:59:28 PM »
Eric Thames is going to be fun to watch

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #8: July 21, 2020, 08:10:02 PM »
Doolittle getting shelled...

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #9: July 21, 2020, 08:12:31 PM »
Fastball sitting at 88...

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #10: July 21, 2020, 08:27:18 PM »
Fastball sitting at 88...

It’s early.  This has been the Eaton show so far. Kieboom still looks lost at the plate.

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #11: July 21, 2020, 08:47:58 PM »
Hudson needs to be the closer.  I think Doolittle is done as a closer.  Last year just took too much out of him.
Is this the last year of his contract?

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« Reply #12: July 21, 2020, 09:09:11 PM »
Hudson needs to be the closer.  I think Doolittle is done as a closer.  Last year just took too much out of him.
Is this the last year of his contract?

I imagine Hudson is the primary closer with Doolittle perhaps getting the nod when there are a bunch of lefties coming up.  Rainey is waiting in the wings as the closer of the future (with Holden Powell a couple of years away).

This is Doolittle's last year.  He's an UFA at season's end.

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #13: July 21, 2020, 10:00:15 PM »
Hudson needs to be the closer.  I think Doolittle is done as a closer.  Last year just took too much out of him.
Is this the last year of his contract?
Yep. Fortunately.

Be nice if someone in our system could develop into a decent reliever.

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #14: July 22, 2020, 12:36:46 AM »
I imagine Hudson is the primary closer with Doolittle perhaps getting the nod when there are a bunch of lefties coming up.  Rainey is waiting in the wings as the closer of the future (with Holden Powell a couple of years away).

This is Doolittle's last year.  He's an UFA at season's end.
Harris may get to close, too.  they could limit Doo to lefty heavy sections of batting orders in the 8th or 9th and mix and match with Harris and Hudson. 

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #15: July 22, 2020, 06:47:12 AM »
Yep. Fortunately.

Be nice if someone in our system could develop into a decent reliever.
Is Seth Romero still around?

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #16: July 22, 2020, 07:27:13 AM »
Is Seth Romero still around?
Yes. I believe he is in the 60 player pool

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #17: July 22, 2020, 08:50:04 AM »
Harris may get to close, too.  they could limit Doo to lefty heavy sections of batting orders in the 8th or 9th and mix and match with Harris and Hudson.
Not sure what Doolittle's splits are over the years versus lefties but given that he is just throwing 88 MPH fastballs I'm not sure how much that would help him. 

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #18: July 22, 2020, 09:05:33 AM »
Not sure what Doolittle's splits are over the years versus lefties but given that he is just throwing 88 MPH fastballs I'm not sure how much that would help him. 
Also, Doolittle doesnt have any offspeed pitches worth a damn.

Maybe he's just easing in to the season. But Hudson doesnt want to close and Harris hasnt really done it before.

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #19: July 22, 2020, 09:09:46 AM »
Also, Doolittle doesnt have any offspeed pitches worth a damn.

Maybe he's just easing in to the season. But Hudson doesnt want to close and Harris hasnt really done it before.
Yes, that's what I meant by throwing only fastballs--no off speed to keep a lefty off balance.  He needs to develop something if he wants to stay around.  Not sure he does though.

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #20: July 22, 2020, 09:51:51 AM »
Yes, that's what I meant by throwing only fastballs--no off speed to keep a lefty off balance.  He needs to develop something if he wants to stay around.  Not sure he does though.

this was Doolittle's first appearance, let's not write him off yet.  Remember that often in ST pitchers are working on different pitches and not necessarily trying to get batters out.

The "lets bat Asdrubal wherever we want" aspect to the game was interesting.  Hopefully either he or Kieboom figure out how to hit at some point, neither have looked good so far.

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #21: July 22, 2020, 09:54:20 AM »
WRT to relievers, Suero had only allowed 1 hit in six innings before ST fell apart.  He wasn't exactly terrible last year (2.57 ERA / 1.190 WHIP in 42 IP).

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #22: July 22, 2020, 09:56:11 AM »
Not sure what Doolittle's splits are over the years versus lefties but given that he is just throwing 88 MPH fastballs I'm not sure how much that would help him. 
is that 88 for real this year?  Last year he had lost 1 MPH from his career 94.8 avergae per fangraphs.  Since that included his recovery time, he should be close to 93 - 94 if he is healthy.  88 will not work for him.  FWIW, he throw about 12% sliders and changes.  With the Nats, the slider more effective than the fastball per pitch, but it was probably set up by the fastball being used so much and not dominant like his fastball when it is right.  Watch to see whether he increases using the slider.  If he does, then he probably knows his fastball is not right.

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/sean-doolittle/1581/stats?position=P

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #23: July 22, 2020, 10:08:32 AM »
is that 88 for real this year?  Last year he had lost 1 MPH from his career 94.8 avergae per fangraphs.  Since that included his recovery time, he should be close to 93 - 94 if he is healthy.  88 will not work for him.  FWIW, he throw about 12% sliders and changes.  With the Nats, the slider more effective than the fastball per pitch, but it was probably set up by the fastball being used so much and not dominant like his fastball when it is right.  Watch to see whether he increases using the slider.  If he does, then he probably knows his fastball is not right.

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/sean-doolittle/1581/stats?position=P
I heard the 88 from Charlie and Dave a couple times.  Not sure if he threw some harder. 

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Re: Nats vs Orioles pre-season - July 21
« Reply #24: July 22, 2020, 10:21:03 AM »
That's true. Its pre-season for the radar gun too.