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Offline Slateman

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Re: Blow it Up (2020)
« Reply #25: August 09, 2020, 09:55:59 AM »
Quote from: Kevrock on August 09, 2020, 07:32:43 AM
In second place in the Kumar sweepstakes!
Legit, Vandy could have players go 1 and 2
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Re: Blow it Up (2020)
« Reply #26: August 10, 2020, 10:12:44 AM »
moved the doolittle discussion to the 2020 Bullpen thread.  It really isn't a blow it up topic since we are not talking about trading him for value. 
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Re: Blow it Up (2020)
« Reply #27: August 15, 2020, 07:07:50 PM »
Kind of cool to see the youth movement right now. MASN guys noting that half our lineup last night was < 23 (Robles is the old guy).
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Re: Blow it Up (2020)
« Reply #28: August 15, 2020, 10:53:32 PM »
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Re: Blow it Up (2020)
« Reply #29: August 17, 2020, 10:51:25 PM »
bump
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Re: Blow it Up (2020)
« Reply #30: August 18, 2020, 09:59:26 AM »
just tank for rocker
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Re: Blow it Up (2020)
« Reply #31: August 18, 2020, 10:39:11 AM »
When there needs to be dignity in failure.
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Re: Blow it Up (2020)
« Reply #32: August 18, 2020, 10:53:53 AM »
Quote from: UMDNats on August 18, 2020, 09:59:26 AM
just tank for rocker

YESSSSS.

KUMAR, KUMAR
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Re: Blow it Up (2020)
« Reply #33: August 18, 2020, 11:41:42 AM »
Quote from: Kevrock on August 18, 2020, 10:53:53 AM
YESSSSS.

KUMAR, KUMAR

Do we get Harold too?
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Re: Blow it Up (2020)
« Reply #34: August 19, 2020, 07:55:00 AM »
Trade Soto for prospects.  :mg:
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Re: Blow it Up (2020)
« Reply #35: August 19, 2020, 09:17:22 AM »
Quote from: WashingtonWizards23 on August 19, 2020, 07:55:00 AM
Trade Soto for prospects.  :mg:
he's younger than most prospects. :mg: :mg:
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Re: Blow it Up (2020)
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Re: Blow it Up (2020)
« Reply #37: August 25, 2020, 10:49:27 AM »
We haven't had a good tank for a while. The races for Strasburg and Harper were insane down the wire. Manny Acta is a true hero for his work in 2008 and his work in 2009 putting the team is such a hole that Jim Riggleman couldn't dig out of it by realizing we'd be a better team with Dunn at first and taking infield a couple times a month.
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Re: Blow it Up (2020)
« Reply #38: August 25, 2020, 10:52:03 AM »
Quote from: Smithian on August 25, 2020, 10:49:27 AM
We haven't had a good tank for a while. The races for Strasburg and Harper were insane down the wire. Manny Acta is a true hero for his work in 2008 and his work in 2009 putting the team is such a hole that Jim Riggleman couldn't dig out of it by realizing we'd be a better team with Dunn at first and taking infield a couple times a month.

maybe last year was our version of The Last Dance.  It's remarkable that we've made a transition to essentially a brand new core this year with Kieboom, Garcia, Soto, Robles, and Turner. Unfortunately the new starters aren't holding their own, and the kids still have lots of room for improvement.
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Re: Blow it Up (2020)
« Reply #39: August 25, 2020, 10:55:52 AM »
Quote from: imref on August 25, 2020, 10:52:03 AM
maybe last year was our version of The Last Dance.  It's remarkable that we've made a transition to essentially a brand new core this year with Kieboom, Garcia, Soto, Robles, and Turner. Unfortunately the new starters aren't holding their own, and the kids still have lots of room for improvement.
Little to no production from 1B and C and RF is killing the lineup.
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Re: Blow it Up (2020)
« Reply #40: August 25, 2020, 10:57:36 AM »
Quote from: Natsinpwc on August 25, 2020, 10:55:52 AM
Little to no production from 1B and C and RF is killing the lineup.

I'd include CF, 2nd and 3rd in there as well.
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Re: Blow it Up (2020)
« Reply #41: August 25, 2020, 11:25:45 AM »
Quote from: Smithian on August 25, 2020, 10:49:27 AM
We haven't had a good tank for a while. The races for Strasburg and Harper were insane down the wire. Manny Acta is a true hero for his work in 2008 and his work in 2009 putting the team is such a hole that Jim Riggleman couldn't dig out of it by realizing we'd be a better team with Dunn at first and taking infield a couple times a month.

It took 4 years from there to a competitive team. Rizzo isnt going to survive that. By then you're looking at a Soto impending free agency.

The Nats have very little to "blow it uo" with this year. Trea Turner is about it. Maybe Robles if you feel like selling low.
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Re: Blow it Up (2020)
« Reply #42: August 25, 2020, 11:30:59 AM »
Quote from: Natsinpwc on August 25, 2020, 10:55:52 AM
Little to no production from 1B and C and RF is killing the lineup.

catching has been fine: .255 / .298 / .353 for Suzuki, .261 / .306 / .478 for Gomes.  Eaton over his last 10: .286 / .348 / .429

Overall, the issue isn't offense as much as it is starting pitching.  When your rotation ERAs are 4.31, 3.99, 6.48, 6.65, and 10.80, you aren't going to win very many games.

Right now Fedde's 2.55 leads the rotation.

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Re: Blow it Up (2020)
« Reply #43: August 25, 2020, 11:45:30 AM »
Quote from: imref on August 25, 2020, 11:30:59 AM
catching has been fine: .255 / .298 / .353 for Suzuki, .261 / .306 / .478 for Gomes.  Eaton over his last 10: .286 / .348 / .429

Overall, the issue isn't offense as much as it is starting pitching.  When your rotation ERAs are 4.31, 3.99, 6.48, 6.65, and 10.80, you aren't going to win very many games.

Right now Fedde's 2.55 leads the rotation.
They are slightly above average in runs scored per game. And slightly below average in runs given up.  Maybe they can be a .500 team.
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Re: Blow it Up (2020)
« Reply #44: August 25, 2020, 12:28:48 PM »
We won the Aaron Crow jackpot in 2007 too :yesyes:
Quote from: Smithian on August 25, 2020, 10:49:27 AM
We haven't had a good tank for a while. The races for Strasburg and Harper were insane down the wire. Manny Acta is a true hero for his work in 2008 and his work in 2009 putting the team is such a hole that Jim Riggleman couldn't dig out of it by realizing we'd be a better team with Dunn at first and taking infield a couple times a month.
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Re: Extend Soto
« Reply #45: August 25, 2020, 01:04:58 PM »
Quote from: zimm_da_kid on August 25, 2020, 01:00:10 PM
Trade Corbin at the deadline --> extend Soto this off-season
No one is taking Corbin. He has negative value. Hes the third least valuable player on this team in trade value.
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Offline Smithian

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Re: Blow it Up (2020)
« Reply #46: August 25, 2020, 01:45:48 PM »
Quote from: imref on August 25, 2020, 10:52:03 AM
maybe last year was our version of The Last Dance.  It's remarkable that we've made a transition to essentially a brand new core this year with Kieboom, Garcia, Soto, Robles, and Turner. Unfortunately the new starters aren't holding their own, and the kids still have lots of room for improvement.
Not sure I'd go that far. You could ship out every mid-level veteran like Kendrick, Cabrera, and Gomes then come back next year with a top 3 of Sherzer, Corbin, Strasburg with a free agent cleanup hitter behind Soto and you could sell me on that team being a contender.

This feels more like the Golden State Warriors one season rebuild then a complete teardown of the franchise.
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Re: Re: Extend Soto
« Reply #47: August 25, 2020, 03:00:10 PM »
Quote from: Slateman on August 25, 2020, 01:04:58 PM
No one is taking Corbin. He has negative value. Hes the third least valuable player on this team in trade value.

That is absolutely false
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Re: Re: Extend Soto
« Reply #48: August 25, 2020, 03:04:45 PM »
Quote from: zimm_da_kid on August 25, 2020, 03:00:10 PM
That is absolutely false

100%. You don't go from being the top free agent pitcher on the market 2 years ago to being on par with Dakota Bacus especially after the post season he had last year.
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Re: Re: Extend Soto
« Reply #49: August 25, 2020, 03:18:10 PM »
Quote from: zimm_da_kid on August 25, 2020, 03:00:10 PM
That is absolutely false
Quote from: DCFan on August 25, 2020, 03:04:45 PM
100%. You don't go from being the top free agent pitcher on the market 2 years ago to being on par with Dakota Bacus especially after the post season he had last year.
No, you go to no value when you are still owed over 100 million at age 30 or older. No one is giving you crap for Corbin, Strasburg, or Scherzer. That's a straight salary dump.

We would probably hope to get a Bacus-type prospect back in return.
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