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Re: So will there be a 2020 season?
« Reply #400: May 31, 2020, 04:51:54 PM »
Three friends of mine have lost a parent.  The family of a close friend of my son’s all got it.

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Re: So will there be a 2020 season?
« Reply #401: May 31, 2020, 04:57:29 PM »
Lots of my wife’s family got it (northern Jersey and NYC for the most part), one uncle was one a ventilator, but no deaths

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Re: So will there be a 2020 season?
« Reply #402: May 31, 2020, 06:05:18 PM »
My brother and sister in law and their daughter got it.  SIL was hospitalized but out now.  I am sure there are some former colleagues and acquaintances that died from it that I don’t know about.

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Re: So will there be a 2020 season?
« Reply #403: May 31, 2020, 10:33:55 PM »
Passan:

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The MLBPA delivered a proposal to MLB on Sunday afternoon, a source familiar with it tells ESPN. It includes 114-game season that would end October 31, the right to opt out of the season for all players and potential deferral of salaries if 2020 the postseason were canceled.

More details in this thread:
https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1267277338468810755?s=21

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Re: So will there be a 2020 season?
« Reply #404: June 01, 2020, 08:05:18 AM »
Passan:

More details in this thread:
https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1267277338468810755?s=21
What does the last phrase mean? Makes no sense grammatically. 


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Re: So will there be a 2020 season?
« Reply #406: June 01, 2020, 05:15:31 PM »
https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1267564365974310912

hey now

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Major League Baseball intends to propose a shorter season in which they would pay players a full prorated share of their salaries, sources told ESPN. The league believes the late March agreement allows it to set the schedule, and that this would fulfill players’ pro rata desire.


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Re: So will there be a 2020 season?
« Reply #409: June 01, 2020, 06:20:28 PM »
Negotiating. Almost like a real management and Union.

Almost

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Re: So will there be a 2020 season?
« Reply #410: June 02, 2020, 11:39:38 AM »
https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1267564365974310912

hey now


This makes me think a deal gets done- something close to pro-rated salaries and splitting the difference in the number of games

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Re: So will there be a 2020 season?
« Reply #411: June 02, 2020, 12:03:46 PM »
This makes me think a deal gets done- something close to pro-rated salaries and splitting the difference in the number of games
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Re: So will there be a 2020 season?
« Reply #412: June 03, 2020, 11:22:34 AM »
This makes me think a deal gets done- something close to pro-rated salaries and splitting the difference in the number of games

It looks like they are far apart as to number of games: "The players proposed 114 regular season games while the owners side is said to prefer something in the 50-60 game range if they are going to pay prorated salaries. "

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlbpa-on-board-with-leagues-plan-for-regional-schedule-in-2020-season-per-report/

I think too far apart to simply split the difference.

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Re: So will there be a 2020 season?
« Reply #413: June 03, 2020, 11:40:58 AM »
It looks like they are far apart as to number of games: "The players proposed 114 regular season games while the owners side is said to prefer something in the 50-60 game range if they are going to pay prorated salaries. "

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlbpa-on-board-with-leagues-plan-for-regional-schedule-in-2020-season-per-report/

I think too far apart to simply split the difference.

One side is at about 2/3 of the season, the other is at 1/3.  Sounds like 80 games is the deal.  If the reason the owners want a shorter season is that they actually lose money by playing games due to costs v gate, maybe some portion of the higher salaries can be deferred, Nats-style, in order for better cash flow.


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Re: So will there be a 2020 season?
« Reply #415: June 03, 2020, 06:38:00 PM »
MLB has rejected the 114 game season.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2020/06/03/mlb-rejects-players-union-proposal-114-game-2020-season/3136481001/


"The Athletic reported that there will be no further offers from MLB, in effect forcing the union to bring its 114-game ask down to a level that would enhance the chances of a full postseason"

What would that number be?  MLB wants few enough games to allow a full postseason, but I would think fans want enough games to allow a meaningful postseason.   You can't be serious about a postseason when you've played 50 games.  I think 100 would be the minimum.  I don't think I'd bother watching any of the postseason of a 50 game season, Even if the Nationals were in it.  I imagine alot of fans would feel that way too, defeating the purpose of a severely limited season, which is to generate revenue from a postseason.


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Re: So will there be a 2020 season?
« Reply #416: June 03, 2020, 06:42:37 PM »
81 seems fair, with a July 1 start.

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Re: So will there be a 2020 season?
« Reply #417: June 03, 2020, 07:00:37 PM »
81 seems fair, with a July 1 start.
Do you think a postseason would be meaningful after an 81 game season?  I can't decide for sure, but I'm leaning towards no.  (I think it would be 82 rather than 81, because you probably have to have an even number.)

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Re: So will there be a 2020 season?
« Reply #418: June 03, 2020, 07:04:05 PM »
Do you think a postseason would be meaningful after an 81 game season?  I can't decide for sure, but I'm leaning towards no.  (I think it would be 82 rather than 81, because you probably have to have an even number.)
No matter how many games they play, there will be an asterisk next to it in the records. It is what it is.

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Re: So will there be a 2020 season?
« Reply #419: June 03, 2020, 07:04:35 PM »
No matter how many games they play, there will be an asterisk next to it in the records. It is what it is.

Agreed

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Re: So will there be a 2020 season?
« Reply #420: June 03, 2020, 07:15:55 PM »
81 seems fair, with a July 1 start.
They won’t be able to start July 1. 

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Re: So will there be a 2020 season?
« Reply #421: June 03, 2020, 07:49:46 PM »
No matter how many games they play, there will be an asterisk next to it in the records. It is what it is.

No one remembers the ‘81 season only had like 108 games and the teams that went to playoffs didn’t have the best overall records. Twenty years from now, no one will care.

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Re: So will there be a 2020 season?
« Reply #422: June 03, 2020, 07:55:58 PM »
No one remembers the ‘81 season only had like 108 games and the teams that went to playoffs didn’t have the best overall records. Twenty years from now, no one will care.
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Re: So will there be a 2020 season?
« Reply #423: June 03, 2020, 08:10:24 PM »
No one remembers the ‘81 season only had like 108 games and the teams that went to playoffs didn’t have the best overall records. Twenty years from now, no one will care.
Apparently we do. That's also 20 games more than the 81 we're talking about

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Re: So will there be a 2020 season?
« Reply #424: June 03, 2020, 09:25:51 PM »
No matter how many games they play, there will be an asterisk next to it in the records. It is what it is.
There's no asterisk for the redskins superbowl wins for '82 and '87.