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Re: 2020 Draft
« Reply #100: June 14, 2020, 11:45:13 AM »
What are those guys going to do, stock shelves?

It'll take a year or two to even out, because a lot of guys who are eligible will go back to school, but when everyone ends up being a senior again, they don't really have much choice but to take whatever is offered - if they want to make the major leagues.

20k plus sub minimum wage for years to come- college for high school seniors or a real job those graduating both sound like better alternatives

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« Reply #101: June 14, 2020, 11:49:43 AM »
Right, nobody in those leagues is paying a 6th rounder $200,000. The top of the 6th round in 2019 was worth $300K in MLB by slot value.

Maybe those guys are faced with the choice of like $25,000 for MLB or $75,000 for an overseas league. And that's probably like the top 5 guys. who went undrafted in the first place because they wanted $1 million not to go back to school.

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« Reply #102: June 14, 2020, 11:56:29 AM »
20k plus sub minimum wage for years to come- college for high school seniors or a real job those graduating both sound like better alternatives

Seems like MLB is pretty much fine with that, although I think there will probably be some kind of total pool like the International pool. Like you have 5 rounds, then teams each have $500K for anything that exceed a de minimis bonus. Give that to one guy, split among a few guys, etc. Sign the rest for $25K apiece.

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« Reply #103: June 14, 2020, 11:56:40 AM »
Right, nobody in those leagues is paying a 6th rounder $200,000. The top of the 6th round in 2019 was worth $300K in MLB by slot value.

Maybe those guys are faced with the choice of like $25,000 for MLB or $75,000 for an overseas league. And that's probably like the top 5 guys. who went undrafted in the first place because they wanted $1 million not to go back to school.
More undrafted high school guys will end up in college--don't think that's really a bad thing.  The quality of college ball has improved over the years and that would help it continue. 

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« Reply #104: June 14, 2020, 12:23:00 PM »
More undrafted high school guys will end up in college--don't think that's really a bad thing.  The quality of college ball has improved over the years and that would help it continue. 

Next year will be interesting- what do colleges do with seniors who want to stay for another year, I can’t see saying yes being good for the locker room since that will cost incoming guys playing time, and that’s if the schools even want scholarship athletes in a non-revenue sport coming back. If football generates less money than planned on, does an expensive sport like base baseball get the ax?

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« Reply #106: June 15, 2020, 06:52:03 PM »
Interesting info regarding Infante:

The slot value for selection No. 71 was $884,000, but Infante said the Nationals agreed to pay him “$300,000 over slot.”

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/college/state-college-sports/article243542007.html

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« Reply #107: June 15, 2020, 08:25:31 PM »
Not sure is anyone has posted this.  Nats have signed 3 guys.  Several teams have signed more.  Maybe they are looking for quality.  Or perhaps LAC has made its way onto the latest social network platforms.  But we got another Gio!!!!!!!!

https://www.mlb.com/news/nationals-agree-with-3-non-drafted-free-agents?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage

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« Reply #108: June 16, 2020, 07:58:52 PM »
Next year will be interesting- what do colleges do with seniors who want to stay for another year, I can’t see saying yes being good for the locker room since that will cost incoming guys playing time, and that’s if the schools even want scholarship athletes in a non-revenue sport coming back. If football generates less money than planned on, does an expensive sport like base baseball get the ax?

D1 Baseball teams get 11.7 scholarships to divvy up (resulting in a lot of partial scholarships or non-scholarships to reserve scholarships for kids that actually need it). Do agree that baseball programs could be a target, but not based on scholarships. Same amount of scholarships no matter what. Returning players with eligibility would be up to the coach who’s concern is winning

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« Reply #109: June 16, 2020, 08:37:52 PM »
D1 Baseball teams get 11.7 scholarships to divvy up (resulting in a lot of partial scholarships or non-scholarships to reserve scholarships for kids that actually need it). Do agree that baseball programs could be a target, but not based on scholarships. Same amount of scholarships no matter what. Returning players with eligibility would be up to the coach who’s concern is winning

I think any men’s team with with a decent number of scholarships (lax and track are probably in the same boat As baseball) are in trouble. Brown tried to cut track but had to back down, baseball just seems like an easier target

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Re: 2020 Draft
« Reply #111: June 18, 2020, 12:47:03 AM »
In regard to Cole Henry:

https://twitter.com/jjcoop36/status/1271200217296183296?s=21

if he does better photo shoots than yu darvish, i'm in

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« Reply #114: June 20, 2020, 08:58:43 AM »
Holden Powell is signed

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Re: 2020 Draft
« Reply #115: June 20, 2020, 01:57:02 PM »
So, who is unsigned at this point?  Henry?  who else?

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« Reply #116: June 20, 2020, 06:00:45 PM »
So, who is unsigned at this point?  Henry?  who else?

Dunn and Fielder

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« Reply #118: June 20, 2020, 06:47:28 PM »
Dunn and Fielder

Could've gotten some o dat sweet sweet gordon beckham for him.  Or SP edition Huddy

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« Reply #119: June 23, 2020, 03:39:59 PM »
So, who is unsigned at this point?  Henry?  who else?

https://twitter.com/dougherty_jesse/status/1275512819946053632?s=21

Scratch him off the list as well.

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« Reply #120: June 23, 2020, 04:41:05 PM »
https://twitter.com/dougherty_jesse/status/1275512819946053632?s=21

Scratch him off the list as well.
that's huge, isn't it?  Where are they getting all this above-slot money?  Who have they saved on? Cavalli was slot I think, and  Infante was $100K above.

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« Reply #121: June 23, 2020, 04:54:41 PM »
that's huge, isn't it?  Where are they getting all this above-slot money?  Who have they saved on? Cavalli was slot I think, and  Infante was $100K above.

from MLBTR

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Nationals ($6,647,700 draft pool)

Cade Cavalli, 1st round, 22nd overall. Slot value: $3.027MM (Signed)
Cole Henry, 2-55. Slot value: $1.307MM
Samuel Infante, free agent compensation round, 71st overall. Slot value: $884.2K (Signed for $1MM)
Holden Powell, 3-94. Slot value: $618.2K
Brady Lindsly, 4-123. Slot value: $464.5K (Signed for $20K)
Mitchell Parker, 5-153. Slot value: $346.8K (Signed)

add in Henry at 2, Inante at 1 and Powell (haven't seen the number). It looks like they're right up against it

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« Reply #122: June 23, 2020, 06:00:19 PM »
from MLBTR

add in Henry at 2, Inante at 1 and Powell (haven't seen the number). It looks like they're right up against it

Yep, they went underslot for three of the picks (appreciably so for Lindsly), signed Cavalli for full slot and went over for Henry and Infante.

The Powell number:

https://twitter.com/jonathanmayo/status/1275545704606445568?s=21

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Re: 2020 Draft
« Reply #123: June 23, 2020, 06:02:58 PM »
I liked the Powell pick. Nats reliever woes have been catastrophic and the Nationals seem loath to convert starters into relievers

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« Reply #124: June 23, 2020, 09:54:19 PM »
Per Callis, Henry signed (1.3 million....which is slot value).