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« Reply #150: March 22, 2020, 01:13:07 PM »
Funny, I was watching it yesterday while cooking and my wife came in remembered seeing it years ago with her cousins. The trip through nostalgia is entertaining, but I’m actually looking to the Big 3 playing big brothe style in the summer

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« Reply #151: May 15, 2020, 09:37:51 PM »
Probably should start a new thread but Mac Maclung is leaving Georgetown. Primary landing spots are Maryland and North Carolina. 

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« Reply #152: May 15, 2020, 10:17:16 PM »
Carlik Jones, the Big South and Radford’s best player is transferring to Louisville. He’s a fifth year player who redshirted his freshman year and graduated from Radford in May.

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« Reply #153: May 16, 2020, 01:15:54 PM »
Carlik Jones, the Big South and Radford’s best player is transferring to Louisville. He’s a fifth year player who redshirted his freshman year and graduated from Radford in May.
kind of curious about whether one of the yale seniors, Jordan Bruner, will enter a graduate program at a non-Ivy school because he could qualify for a medical redshirt.  Ivies do not allow an extra year for medical redshirts but the NCAA does.  I think he led the Ivies in rebounding and also generates assists.

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« Reply #154: May 16, 2020, 01:20:40 PM »
kind of curious about whether one of the yale seniors, Jordan Bruner, will enter a graduate program at a non-Ivy school because he could qualify for a medical redshirt.  Ivies do not allow an extra year for medical redshirts but the NCAA does.  I think he led the Ivies in rebounding and also generates assists.
This might have some info.

http://boards.basketball-u.com/showtopic.php?tid/24166/

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« Reply #155: May 16, 2020, 02:20:01 PM »
kind of curious about whether one of the yale seniors, Jordan Bruner, will enter a graduate program at a non-Ivy school because he could qualify for a medical redshirt.  Ivies do not allow an extra year for medical redshirts but the NCAA does.  I think he led the Ivies in rebounding and also generates assists.

I would think for most Yale players, the degree is the reason they’d play there. I wonder if a bunch will use the extra eligibility to get into good grad schools- would say Hopkins let someone into med school on a basketball admission?

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« Reply #156: May 16, 2020, 02:29:59 PM »
I would think for most Yale players, the degree is the reason they’d play there. I wonder if a bunch will use the extra eligibility to get into good grad schools- would say Hopkins let someone into med school on a basketball admission?
These top Ivy players are going big time.
Ohio State
Duke
California
Etc

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nj.com/setonhall/2020/03/ivy-leagues-transfer-policy-makes-it-fertile-recruiting-ground-for-power-conference-schools-like-seton-hall.html%3foutputType=amp

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« Reply #157: May 16, 2020, 06:00:02 PM »
I would think for most Yale players, the degree is the reason they’d play there. I wonder if a bunch will use the extra eligibility to get into good grad schools- would say Hopkins let someone into med school on a basketball admission?
most, but the point guard who lit up Baylor in the NCAAs back in 2016, Makai Mason, as a sophomore, then was injured his next year, transferred to Baylor for 2018-19 and got a lot of playing time.  He played in Germany's pro league this past season.  A lot of the Ivy players will play a few years in Europe as an experience.  One kid who would have been a senior this year actually left early and was drafted by the Jazz.  I he ended up on their G-league team and played 5 games in the NBA.

Bruner was a major recruit but ended up injured so much that he really only played 1 or 2 years.  From the linked board it looks like he's going to Alabama. The top 2 harvard kids are transferring to Ohio State and Seton Hall. HArvard had their injuries in 2018-2019.

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« Reply #158: May 16, 2020, 06:10:54 PM »
most, but the point guard who lit up Baylor in the NCAAs back in 2016, Makai Mason, as a sophomore, then was injured his next year, transferred to Baylor for 2018-19 and got a lot of playing time.  He played in Germany's pro league this past season.  A lot of the Ivy players will play a few years in Europe as an experience.  One kid who would have been a senior this year actually left early and was drafted by the Jazz.  I he ended up on their G-league team and played 5 games in the NBA.

Bruner was a major recruit but ended up injured so much that he really only played 1 or 2 years.  From the linked board it looks like he's going to Alabama.

I always thought the reason to play for an ivy was that you were smart enough to know you were many going pro and smart enough to care about the value of the degree

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« Reply #159: May 16, 2020, 06:21:51 PM »
I always thought the reason to play for an ivy was that you were smart enough to know you were many going pro and smart enough to care about the value of the degree

A degree from Cal or Duke is not exactly chopped liver.

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« Reply #160: May 16, 2020, 06:23:45 PM »
I always thought the reason to play for an ivy was that you were smart enough to know you were many going pro and smart enough to care about the value of the degree
Used to be.  However, the past decade or so, I think after the DOJ and the IRS started questioning the accumulation in the endowments and the lack of spending, the Ivies and a lot of the other well-endowed schools stepped up big time in their need-based financial aid, so that essentially if your folks make less than 100K, most of your tuition is covered by grants.  I forget the precise cut lines.  The biggest impact is on non-revenue / low revenue sports, but it also is some help to hoops.  It takes the finances out of the equation for a lot of recruits, so it then becomes a pure opportunity question - will I play? will I get to show my skills? what is the quality of the competition? on the athletic side v. as you put it, the quality of the education and the doors opened by the degree.  Having good coaches helps too. Jones, Amaker, Penn, Princeton all schedule tough out of conference teams (Away, of course), so you do get a bit of show casing.  James Jones is pretty respected at this point.

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« Reply #161: May 16, 2020, 06:24:28 PM »
A degree from Cal or Duke is not exactly chopped liver.

The starting point guard for Dartmouth isn’t exactly getting an offer from either of them

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« Reply #162: May 16, 2020, 06:26:34 PM »
A degree from Cal or Duke is not exactly chopped liver.
We beat Cal last year, I think.  Oh, Michigan is getting an Ivy grad transfer.  Not one of the top 3 (Towns, Aiken, Bruner).

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« Reply #163: May 16, 2020, 06:34:16 PM »
The starting point guard for Dartmouth isn’t exactly getting an offer from either of them
WUT? Columbia is always the dregs. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28950076/columbia-graduate-transfer-patrick-tape-commits-duke%3fplatform=amp

They went down this season but previous year Ivy was ranked as one of the better conferences. Number ten in this one.

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/rpi-ranking/rpi-rating-by-conf?date=2019-04-09

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« Reply #164: May 16, 2020, 06:44:45 PM »
WUT? Columbia is always the dregs. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28950076/columbia-graduate-transfer-patrick-tape-commits-duke%3fplatform=amp

They went down this season but previous year Ivy was ranked as one of the better conferences. Number ten in this one.

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/rpi-ranking/rpi-rating-by-conf?date=2019-04-09


That’s why I didn’t cherry pick- the average ivy player isn’t getting an offer to play for Cal let alone duke

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« Reply #165: May 16, 2020, 06:47:56 PM »
That’s why I didn’t cherry pick- the average ivy player isn’t getting an offer to play for Cal let alone duke

I just picked the schools NatsinPWC listed in his previous post, leaving off Ohio State because it’s garbage.

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« Reply #166: May 16, 2020, 06:50:52 PM »
That’s why I didn’t cherry pick- the average ivy player isn’t getting an offer to play for Cal let alone duke
If you look at their grad transfers they all move up.  They are not moving down to Division 3. 

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« Reply #167: May 16, 2020, 06:50:56 PM »
Those are the top transfers- this year there will be a whole class of seniors with an undergrad degree and an extra year of eligibility

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« Reply #168: May 16, 2020, 06:54:04 PM »
Those are the top transfers- this year there will be a whole class of seniors with an undergrad degree and an extra year of eligibility
No. They are the ones who had an extra year of eligibility who graduated. 

Not sure what you mean by this year? 2020-21?  Everyone will be in the same boat. 


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« Reply #170: May 16, 2020, 07:00:39 PM »
This kid was not even considered Penn’s top recruit.  The quality of Ivy basketball has really improved in the past few years. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.casualhoya.com/platform/amp/2020/5/12/21256729/class-of-2020-guard-t-j-berger-commits-to-georgetown-hoyas-westtown-pa-malvern-penn-ewing