Postseason Awards

[Slateman]

Max came in second. How many wins did he have?

11.

Ryu had 14

[bluestreak]

The way I see it today is a multimillion dollar day. If Rendon walks away with that MVP today the price tag goes up by millions.

I don’t think it makes a difference either way. But even if we say it does, he’s earned it. I’d rather him have that money than the Lerners.

[vicki4471]

11.

Ryu had 14

There was an initial error, they retracted the results. Max was third

[Slateman]

There was an initial error, they retracted the results. Max was third

Ryu still had more wins and didn't get the Cy Young.

[imref]

Ryu still had more wins and didn't get the Cy Young.

Maybe the voters realize wins don't matter?

[Slateman]

Maybe the voters realize wins don't matter?

So we've confirmed that the voters don't collect medicare.

[imref]

FWIW, Mark Zuckerman had a CY vote this year, here's his ballot and reasoning:

1. Jacob deGrom: The most consistently dominant pitcher in the league throughout the entire season. Led the NL in strikeouts and WAR while finishing second in ERA and WHIP and third in innings pitched. What also separated him from the pack was his volume of dominant starts. He allowed two or fewer runs while pitching seven or more innings 17 times this season, three more times than anyone else in the NL.

2. Hyun-Jin Ryu: Led the league in ERA and fewest walks per nine innings. Ranked third in WHIP. Ranked second behind deGrom with 14 starts in which he allowed two or fewer runs over seven or more innings.

3. Jack Flaherty: Led the league in WHIP (0.968) while finishing fourth in ERA (2.75). Was the best pitcher in the NL during the second half of the season, posting a miniscule 0.91 ERA and 0.775 WHIP over his final 15 starts. Allowed zero or one run in 17 starts over the entire season, most in the league.

4. Stephen Strasburg: Led the league in wins (18) and innings (209), second in WAR and strikeouts. Made all 33 starts, 22 of those quality starts (third-most in the NL).

5. Max Scherzer: Was on track to potentially win at the All-Star break, but made only eight starts in the second half and posted a 4.81 ERA in those starts. His rate stats (ERA, WHIP, strikeouts per nine innings) all were Cy Young-worthy, but his counting stats suffered as a result of his injuries.

[Slateman]

This Mets staff is going to go down as one of the biggest wastes of talent in MLB history

[HalfSmokes]

The way I see it today is a multimillion dollar day. If Rendon walks away with that MVP today the price tag goes up by millions. 

I would hope that no team bidding on him (including the nats) cares- whatever projections they use aren’t going to be impacted by an mvp win

[HalfSmokes]

FWIW, Mark Zuckerman had a CY vote this year, here's his ballot and reasoning:

freak him

[GburgNatsFan]

Max came in second. How many wins did he have?

mymff.net

[vicki4471]

Cody Bellinger won MVP

[DCFan]

This Mets staff is going to go down as one of the biggest wastes of talent in MLB history

It's because wins matter more than anything else.

[nfotiu]

Wins may be a crappy measure of how good a talent a pitcher is but they are significant in representing the results which I wish the awards would consider again.  Pitching really well and not having anything to show for should be good for the pocket book but you shouldn’t get an award for it.  I question guys winning mvps for raking on a team that hasn’t played a meaningful game since June as well.

[Slateman]

Wins may be a crappy measure of how good a talent a pitcher is but they are significant in representing the results which I wish the awards would consider again.  Pitching really well and not having anything to show for should be good for the pocket book but you shouldn’t get an award for it.  I question guys winning mvps for raking on a team that hasn’t played a meaningful game since June as well.

Sure. Team wins. But pitcher wins are a poor judge of pitcher's performance.

Eduardo Rodriguez had 19 wins. Is he a better pitcher than deGrom or Strasburg? Of course not. Are Max Fried and Marco Gonzez better than Patrick Corbin? No.

[imref]

Cody Bellinger won MVP

No surprise. Trout took another AL MVP

[imref]

Rendon third for MVP. Got one first place vote.

[Slateman]

Rendon third for MVP. Got one first place vote.

Gotta be Zuck, right?

[Slateman]

No surprise. Trout took another AL MVP

It's insane how good Trout is.

[imref]

Gotta be Zuck, right?

He only had a cy young vote.

[imref]

Zuck writes:

Four Nationals players received top 10 MVP votes this season. In addition to Rendon, Juan Soto received 45 points to finish ninth overall, Stephen Strasburg received four points to finish in a tie for 15th place and Max Scherzer received one 10th-place vote to finish tied for 22nd place.

[bluestreak]

Wins may be a crappy measure of how good a talent a pitcher is but they are significant in representing the results which I wish the awards would consider again.  Pitching really well and not having anything to show for should be good for the pocket book but you shouldn’t get an award for it.  I question guys winning mvps for raking on a team that hasn’t played a meaningful game since June as well.

There already are awards for results and team performance. It’s the commissioner’s trophy. I believe the Nats have one now.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Zuck writes:

no Howie? Clearly VaRK doesn't have a vote

[imref]

Soriano and Dunn are on the HOF ballot for next year.

[aspenbubba]

There already are awards for results and team performance. It’s the commissioner’s trophy. I believe the Nats have one now.

When did that happen and why didn't someone tell me?