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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1675: January 21, 2020, 03:40:56 PM »
Chippy. Self-assured. A pain in the ass.  That's how I assume he is on a day-to-day basis.

As long as he's getting on base nothing else matters so much. :)

He plays hard and he was so clutch in the playoffs. And for that... he's ok by me.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1676: January 21, 2020, 03:48:07 PM »
Yup.
He plays hard and he was so clutch in the playoffs. And for that... he's ok by me.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1677: January 21, 2020, 04:04:42 PM »
I'm going to guess that the whole routine of celebrating homers has gotten under some folks skin, especially the trucks drivers at the end of the line.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1678: January 21, 2020, 04:44:25 PM »
I'm going to guess that the whole routine of celebrating homers has gotten under some folks skin, especially the trucks drivers at the end of the line.

One of my favorite playoff moments was Rendon dancing after he homered off Kershaw in Game 5 to put the Nats 1 run closer at 2-3.

The announcer said something to the effect of: "It's Game 5 and the Nationals are down by 1 in the 8th inning... and they're dancing in the dugout..."

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1679: January 21, 2020, 06:39:19 PM »
One of my favorite playoff moments was Rendon dancing after he homered off Kershaw in Game 5 to put the Nats 1 run closer at 2-3.

The announcer said something to the effect of: "It's Game 5 and the Nationals are down by 1 in the 8th inning... and they're dancing in the dugout..."
Did he cut himself off when we weren’t down 1 anymore??

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1680: January 21, 2020, 07:42:54 PM »
Ozuna to the Braves. 1 year at $18M.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1681: January 21, 2020, 08:02:51 PM »
One year?!? WTF

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1682: January 21, 2020, 10:31:39 PM »
Ozuna to the Braves. 1 year at $18M.
He wants to increase his stock and do it all again in 2021.  Now the Braves are good and deep in the outfield -- their #4 is Markakis. 

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1683: January 22, 2020, 01:29:36 AM »
Ozuna is a clown show in the outfield.    Not worried at all about that signing.   

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1684: January 22, 2020, 07:55:10 AM »
Nats twitter having some fun with the Ozuna signing:

https://twitter.com/nationals/status/1219792282326642688

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1685: January 22, 2020, 08:06:46 AM »
Ozuna is a clown show in the outfield.    Not worried at all about that signing.   

He has 23 DRS in 3900 innings in LF. Hes decent in left field. Far from a clown show. Hes certainly no worse than our LFer.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1686: January 22, 2020, 08:09:15 AM »
Nats twitter having some fun with the Ozuna signing:

https://twitter.com/nationals/status/1219792282326642688

That’s a little much

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1687: January 22, 2020, 08:23:41 AM »
That’s a little much

Yeah, no need to make the official feed a locker room material generator

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1688: January 22, 2020, 08:46:53 AM »
That’s a little much
agreed. 

I think this was a smarter move than trading for Arenado or Seager due to their contracts.  Riley moves to 3d.  He's no more of a risk there, maybe less of a risk, than Kieboom.  They have Camargo, who's an adequate plan B.  They avoid having to deplete the farm for a player with an opt-out after 2 years, and they are making just a 1 year commitment instead of a 3 year one (but only if he's bad) to Seager. 

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1689: January 22, 2020, 10:01:54 AM »
Ozuna's main value to Atlanta will be to provide protection for Freeman.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1690: January 22, 2020, 10:19:35 AM »
Ozuna's main value to Atlanta will be to provide protection for Freeman.

This shouldn't be overlooked. We have that same need in regards to protection for Soto. Doesn't look like that'll be addressed either.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1691: January 22, 2020, 01:41:32 PM »
This shouldn't be overlooked. We have that same need in regards to protection for Soto. Doesn't look like that'll be addressed either.
he'll have Kendrick or Thames or RZ behind him, which is no worse than last year.  Bigger problem isn't who is hitting behind him; it's who is ahead of him at 1-2-3

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1692: January 22, 2020, 08:02:13 PM »
He has 23 DRS in 3900 innings in LF. Hes decent in left field. Far from a clown show. Hes certainly no worse than our LFer.
In face Soto and Ozuna are basically the same player in left field.  Since his shoulder injury his arm is below average.  They both have decent speed and can field the position.

I hope we all pay attention this year to see that Soto's arm is below average. 


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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1693: January 22, 2020, 09:40:44 PM »
he'll have Kendrick or Thames or RZ behind him, which is no worse than last year.  Bigger problem isn't who is hitting behind him; it's who is ahead of him at 1-2-3

My guess:

1- SS Turner
2- RF Eaton
3- 2B Castro
4- LF Soto
5- 1B Thames / Howie
6- 3B Cabrera / Kieboom
7- C Suzuki / Gomes
8- CF Robles

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1694: January 22, 2020, 09:54:46 PM »
My guess:

1- SS Turner
2- RF Eaton
3- 2B Castro
4- LF Soto
5- 1B Thames / Howie
6- 3B Cabrera / Kieboom
7- C Suzuki / Gomes
8- CF Robles
Good thing we're in an easy division

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1695: January 22, 2020, 10:04:14 PM »
Ozuna's main value to Atlanta will be to provide protection for Freeman.
Ozuna had one great year in 2017--other than that his offensive stats are not so great.  Last year was his second best with a .800 OPS. 

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1696: January 22, 2020, 10:18:32 PM »
My guess:

1- SS Turner
2- RF Eaton
3- 2B Castro
4- LF Soto
5- 1B Thames / Howie
6- 3B Cabrera / Kieboom
7- C Suzuki / Gomes
8- CF Robles

Someone posted the interview with Davey recently where he said he was open to trying a few different combos, including moving Turner to third and giving Robles a shot at leadoff.  So you could see something like:

vs RHP:
Eaton
Turner
Soto
Thames
Castro
Gomes/Suzuki
Cabrera / Kieboom
Robles

vs LHP:
Robles
Eaton
Turner
Soto
Kendrick
Castro
Gomes/Suzuki
Cabrera / Kieboom

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1697: January 22, 2020, 10:58:30 PM »
Someone posted the interview with Davey recently where he said he was open to trying a few different combos, including moving Turner to third and giving Robles a shot at leadoff.  So you could see something like:

vs RHP:
Eaton
Turner
Soto
Thames
Castro
Gomes/Suzuki
Cabrera / Kieboom
Robles

vs LHP:
Robles
Eaton
Turner
Soto
Kendrick
Castro
Gomes/Suzuki
Cabrera / Kieboom
I really like Turner hitting 2nd or 3rd.  I don't see Robles hitting 8th in 80%+ games this year.   I actually don't think he'll hit in that spot at all.  It's a crappy spot to develop as a hitter.   I'm guessing he's first second or 9th.  9th at least gets the pitcher to pitch to you.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1698: January 23, 2020, 12:45:41 AM »
I really like Turner hitting 2nd or 3rd.  I don't see Robles hitting 8th in 80%+ games this year.   I actually don't think he'll hit in that spot at all.  It's a crappy spot to develop as a hitter.   I'm guessing he's first second or 9th.  9th at least gets the pitcher to pitch to you.
I agree there is zero chance Robles hits 8th this year at all.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #1699: January 23, 2020, 10:18:49 AM »
Someone posted the interview with Davey recently where he said he was open to trying a few different combos, including moving Turner to third and giving Robles a shot at leadoff.  So you could see something like:

vs RHP:
Eaton
Turner
Soto
Thames
Castro
Gomes/Suzuki
Cabrera / Kieboom
Robles

vs LHP:
Robles
Eaton
Turner
Soto
Kendrick
Castro
Gomes/Suzuki
Cabrera / Kieboom
I kind of like loading Eaton, Soto, and Thames in the first 4 hitters v. righties, just to get RH starters out of the game by the bottom of the 6th.  I agree Robles probably shouldn't be 8th, but is he a #5 hitter on this team?