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Offline imref

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #75: October 31, 2019, 07:42:48 PM »
Curious what you think of this one:

Martis, Nady, Flores, Gorzelanny

for

Francisco Lindor

Now?

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #76: October 31, 2019, 07:44:57 PM »
Curious what you think of this one:

Martis, Nady, Flores, Gorzelanny

for

Francisco Lindor

Why give up that quality for just one guy?  :smh:

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #77: October 31, 2019, 08:00:24 PM »
Curious what you think of this one:

Martis, Nady, Flores, Gorzelanny

for

Francisco Lindor

:lmao:

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #78: October 31, 2019, 08:15:52 PM »
nah Asscabby only comes back if no Rendon.

Exactly.  Rendon walks, sign Cole and stras, trade for ketel matte, resign Asdrubal

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #79: October 31, 2019, 08:16:32 PM »
Tom gorzelanny was the man

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #80: October 31, 2019, 08:16:34 PM »
OPS isn't.  OPS+ is the comparative version of OPS that does include park adjustments.   WAR does have a park factor baked into it.
Regardless, I don't recall Arenado tearing it up at the plate when the Rockies were in the playoffs last season. In fact, he was 3-16 (.188) with no HRs.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #81: October 31, 2019, 10:44:48 PM »
:(. Zuck:

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Asdrubal Cabrera, Brian Dozier, Jeremy Hellickson, Daniel Hudson, Howie Kendrick, Gerardo Parra, Anthony Rendon, Fernando Rodney and Jonny Venters all just officially became free agents.

Can’t negotiate with other teams for five days.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #82: October 31, 2019, 10:48:51 PM »
He looked awful here this Spring both offensively and most importantly defensively. There is a reason why the Nats didn't call him up in September and I'm not sure what it is other than speculating.
the reason is no consistent ABs why waste servixe time.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #83: November 01, 2019, 09:37:26 AM »
I don't think the money is there, but you could conceivably get Grandal to catch and platoon Zimm and Zuk at 1B. Zuk is still the backup catcher.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #84: November 01, 2019, 09:45:40 AM »
I seriously wonder if an AL team will make a run at Kendrick as a primary DH who you could play in the field for interleague and to rest other regulars. For example, if  JD Martinez opts out, would the Red Sox offer Kendrick $10MM with an option for another?  It'd save money to allocate to Betts that way.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #85: November 01, 2019, 09:47:48 AM »
I seriously wonder if an AL team will make a run at Kendrick as a primary DH who you could play in the field for interleague and to rest other regulars. For example, if  JD Martinez opts out, would the Red Sox offer Kendrick $10MM with an option for another?  It'd save money to allocate to Betts that way.
If I were an AL team I would throw a ton of money at Howie Kendrick. I'd like him back, but I think an AL team will offer him too much money.

If we lose Rendon or Kendrick, I want Cabrera back.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #86: November 01, 2019, 09:48:36 AM »
:(. Zuck:

Can’t negotiate with other teams for five days.

Hudson and Rendon are the only two of those I would consider re-signing.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #87: November 01, 2019, 09:48:50 AM »
No one is gonna throw a ton of money at Kendrick, but I could see him getting ~10 million to solidify their DH position

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #88: November 01, 2019, 09:51:23 AM »
No one is gonna throw a ton of money at Kendrick, but I could see him getting ~10 million to solidify their DH position
He's not going to get that much.  Contenders already have DH guys.  Other teams would rather play their own young guys.  Also, injury riskk is there.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #89: November 01, 2019, 10:01:28 AM »
He's not going to get that much.  Contenders already have DH guys.  Other teams would rather play their own young guys.  Also, injury riskk is there.
10 million is a steal for a .900+ OPS bat

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #90: November 01, 2019, 10:21:59 AM »
This morning while I was looking for spare change in the vending machines at the truck stop I sleep at, I had a most brilliant idea.  I came across a US quarter and it got me thinking.  We should take advantage of the exchange rate.  If we offer to pay our players in Canadian Dollars, we could offer "more" while still paying the same.

For example, 10 million US Dollars is equivalent to 13 million Canadian Dollars.  Surely a player would prefer 13 million over 10 million.  I understand this might be "tricky" but baseball is a "business" after all.

Sorry if this is inappropriate.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #91: November 01, 2019, 10:36:58 AM »
Hudson and Rendon are the only two of those I would consider re-signing.



I agree except that I would add Kendrick to the list too.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #92: November 01, 2019, 11:11:41 AM »
This morning while I was looking for spare change in the vending machines at the truck stop I sleep at, I had a most brilliant idea.  I came across a US quarter and it got me thinking.  We should take advantage of the exchange rate.  If we offer to pay our players in Canadian Dollars, we could offer "more" while still paying the same.

For example, 10 million US Dollars is equivalent to 13 million Canadian Dollars.  Surely a player would prefer 13 million over 10 million.  I understand this might be "tricky" but baseball is a "business" after all.

Sorry if this is inappropriate.
Reminds me of Howard Stern's "Who wants to be a Turkish Millionaire?"

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #94: November 01, 2019, 12:38:34 PM »
Glad to hear that the Nats management is still serious about re-signing Rendon.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/11/01/stephen-strasburg-anthony-rendon-remain-nationals-biggest-offseason-priorities/



so it will take 7 years at $35 million a year to keep Rendon, plus 7 years at around $30 million a year to keep Strasburg.  Can we afford either of them?  Or both?

If we commit to those two, we probably need to be ready to part with Trea Turner after 2020.  Hopefully Garcia or Kieboom are ready to take over at SS.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #95: November 01, 2019, 12:41:32 PM »
Or if you take Rendon's comments about retirement seriously then maybe it's not about the length of the contract.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #96: November 01, 2019, 12:46:36 PM »
Or if you take Rendon's comments about retirement seriously then maybe it's not about the length of the contract.

I take Boras's comment that wants to exceed the Aronado deal more seriously. :)

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #97: November 01, 2019, 12:50:20 PM »
so it will take 7 years at $35 million a year to keep Rendon, plus 7 years at around $30 million a year to keep Strasburg.  Can we afford either of them?  Or both?

If we commit to those two, we probably need to be ready to part with Trea Turner after 2020.  Hopefully Garcia or Kieboom are ready to take over at SS.
Depends on the World Series boost of revenue. Ticket pricess were already in the book for next season, but a jump in attendance will help. Interesting to know if they can still push up advertising rates for next season.

The Nationals have been floating in the Top 5 to Top 10 in spending the latter half of this decade. I think to get into the Top 5 consistently, which Strasburg and Rendon require, they have to sort out MASN and consider naming rights to the stadium.

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #98: November 01, 2019, 12:57:54 PM »
Not directly related to the Nats offseason, but I thought of a line that sounds exactly like something that Scott Boras might say at some point during the winter meetings:

“This Christmas, you actually WANT to find Cole in your stocking.”


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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #99: November 01, 2019, 01:35:27 PM »
Not directly related to the Nats offseason, but I thought of a line that sounds exactly like something that Scott Boras might say at some point during the winter meetings:

“This Christmas, you actually WANT to find Cole in your stocking.”

And when you did he'd put on his Boras hat and say "I'm not an employee of the north pole.  Kringle does what he wants with his guys".