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Offline Kevrock

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, WS Game 5
« Reply #1025: October 28, 2019, 02:37:25 PM »
Quote from: mitlen on October 28, 2019, 02:27:10 PM
I wondered what happened on that play.    I caught the end where Gomes told the ump, "I'm sorry." or some such thing.    I believe Smoltz talked about it a bit.

Same. That’s a shame.
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Offline spidernat

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, WS Game 5
« Reply #1026: October 28, 2019, 02:40:48 PM »
Quote from: mitlen on October 28, 2019, 02:27:10 PM
I wondered what happened on that play.    I caught the end where Gomes told the ump, "I'm sorry." or some such thing.    I believe Smoltz talked about it a bit.



Gomes said: "oh so it's my fault?"
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Offline skippy1999

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, WS Game 5
« Reply #1027: October 28, 2019, 02:45:35 PM »
Wait, the ump was caught saying to Gomes that he got up too quickly and showed him up???? He needs to be removed from this umpiring crew, that’s disgraceful!!!
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Re: Nationals vs Astros, WS Game 5
« Reply #1028: October 28, 2019, 02:47:06 PM »
Quote from: skippy1999 on October 28, 2019, 02:45:35 PM
Wait, the ump was caught saying to Gomes that he got up too quickly and showed him up???? He needs to be removed from this umpiring crew, that’s disgraceful!!!

Considering almost every batter tries to take a step towards first on a close ball 4 call, I agree.  It's ridiculous behavior in a Spring Training game let alone a World Series.
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Offline mitlen

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, WS Game 5
« Reply #1029: October 28, 2019, 02:59:05 PM »
Quote from: spidernat on October 28, 2019, 02:40:48 PM


Gomes said: "oh so it's my fault?"

Ah, so that's what it was.    He was bein' a smartarse.    I like it.
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Offline GburgNatsFan

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, WS Game 5
« Reply #1030: October 28, 2019, 03:05:30 PM »
This. (Although I hate bad calls that favor my team just a little less than those that favor my team's opponents.)

Quote from: spidernat on October 28, 2019, 02:34:02 PM


Robles earned 1B and the chance to see what Gomes would do. I want fairness across the board. I hate bad calls that favor my team. I want the skill of the players to decide who is the better team and who deserves to be crowned champion.
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Offline RobDibblesGhost

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, WS Game 5
« Reply #1031: October 28, 2019, 03:22:13 PM »
Umpire Auditor‏ @UmpireAuditor 

#WorldSeries Game 5 Umpire Report

Name: Lance Barksdale
Correct Call Rate: 93.5%
Calls helping #Nationals: 4
Calls helping #Astros: 5
Largest miss: 3.23 inches

The rate doesn't tell the whole story. Barksdale gifted Correa a ball on an 0-2 count. A K turned into a 2 run HR.


https://twitter.com/UmpireAuditor/status/1188890126539059204
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Re: Nationals vs Astros, WS Game 5
« Reply #1032: October 28, 2019, 03:27:20 PM »
Quote from: skippy1999 on October 28, 2019, 02:45:35 PM
Wait, the ump was caught saying to Gomes that he got up too quickly and showed him up???? He needs to be removed from this umpiring crew, that’s disgraceful!!!

https://twitter.com/Jomboy_/status/1188637839707250688?s=20
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Offline RobDibblesGhost

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, WS Game 5
« Reply #1033: October 28, 2019, 03:29:29 PM »
Quote from: skippy1999 on October 28, 2019, 02:45:35 PM
Wait, the ump was caught saying to Gomes that he got up too quickly and showed him up???? He needs to be removed from this umpiring crew, that’s disgraceful!!!

Zimmerman got a close ball 4 call when he didn't dart towards first and instead waited for the call. Robles got a horrible strike 3 call when he took off towards first. Ump doesn't like being shown up.
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Offline spidernat

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, WS Game 5
« Reply #1034: October 28, 2019, 03:50:49 PM »
Quote from: RobDibblesGhost on October 28, 2019, 03:22:13 PM
Umpire Auditor‏ @UmpireAuditor 

#WorldSeries Game 5 Umpire Report

Name: Lance Barksdale
Correct Call Rate: 93.5%
Calls helping #Nationals: 4
Calls helping #Astros: 5
Largest miss: 3.23 inches

The rate doesn't tell the whole story. Barksdale gifted Correa a ball on an 0-2 count. A K turned into a 2 run HR.


https://twitter.com/UmpireAuditor/status/1188890126539059204




It was pointed out that Hudson got a gift strike the very next inning after the umpire kermitted Robles. That only serves to give the impression that the bad calls were evenly distributed. It's the umpire's version of MSP
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Offline GburgNatsFan

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, WS Game 5
« Reply #1035: October 28, 2019, 03:59:03 PM »
Should I know what MSP is? An advanced metric? Something snarky?


Quote from: spidernat on October 28, 2019, 03:50:49 PM


It was pointed out that Hudson got a gift strike the very next inning after the umpire kermitted Robles. That only serves to give the impression that the bad calls were evenly distributed. It's the umpire's version of MSP
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Re: Nationals vs Astros, WS Game 5
« Reply #1036: October 28, 2019, 04:00:23 PM »
Quote from: GburgNatsFan on October 28, 2019, 03:59:03 PM
Should I know what MSP is? An advanced metric? Something snarky?

Meaningless Stat Padding...

Hitting a solo home run in the 8th when trailing by 7...that sort of thing...
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Offline GburgNatsFan

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, WS Game 5
« Reply #1037: October 28, 2019, 04:01:46 PM »
Quote from: varoadking on October 28, 2019, 04:00:23 PM
Meaningless Stat Padding...

Hitting a solo home run in the 8th when trailing by 7...that sort of thing...

Thanks.
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Offline mitlen

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, WS Game 5
« Reply #1038: October 28, 2019, 04:09:54 PM »
Quote from: GburgNatsFan on October 28, 2019, 03:59:03 PM
Should I know what MSP is? An advanced metric? Something snarky?



It was coined by spider.    :)
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Offline spidernat

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, WS Game 5
« Reply #1039: October 28, 2019, 04:53:46 PM »
Quote from: mitlen on October 28, 2019, 04:09:54 PM
It was coined by spider.    :)



actually it was first used by one of the imbeciles that hates Rendon (I forgot his screen name and I believe he stopped posting a couple of months ago). I just used the initials and added :whip:
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Offline The Chief

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, WS Game 5
« Reply #1040: October 28, 2019, 04:58:06 PM »
"garbage time" has been around since the days of sportsfan.  Didn't he used to accuse Dunn of that? :lol:
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Offline mitlen

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, WS Game 5
« Reply #1041: October 28, 2019, 04:58:54 PM »
Quote from: spidernat on October 28, 2019, 04:53:46 PM


actually it was first used by one of the imbeciles that hates Rendon (I forgot his screen name and I believe he stopped posting a couple of months ago). I just used the initials and added :whip:

It was the :whip: that added the pizzazz.    You had the first adaptation that I remember.
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Offline spidernat

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, WS Game 5
« Reply #1042: October 28, 2019, 05:02:04 PM »
Quote from: The Chief on October 28, 2019, 04:58:06 PM
"garbage time" has been around since the days of sportsfan.  Didn't he used to accuse Dunn of that? :lol:



yep and he once said that Dunn cost the Nats two runs per inning playing LF. :hysterical:
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Offline hohoho

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, WS Game 5
« Reply #1043: October 28, 2019, 09:34:09 PM »
Quote from: RobDibblesGhost on October 28, 2019, 03:29:29 PM
Zimmerman got a close ball 4 call when he didn't dart towards first and instead waited for the call. Robles got a horrible strike 3 call when he took off towards first. Ump doesn't like being shown up.
So the ump is going to decide a WS game based on his ego? Another reason for egoless robo-umps.
"We wuz robbed." :)
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Offline SharkNats

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Re: Nationals vs Astros, WS Game 5
« Reply #1044: October 29, 2019, 08:14:54 AM »
Quote from: hohoho on October 28, 2019, 09:34:09 PM
So the ump is going to decide a WS game based on his ego? Another reason for egoless robo-umps.
"We wuz robbed." :)

I think you keep the real umps but can challenge a call and go to the robot ump to overrule.
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