Nationals vs Astros, WS Game 5

[nats2playoffs]

Didn’t we lose four in a row in early September? There’s four consecutive threads on the main GDT page missing the

You are correct. I was quoting Charlie & Dave.
Fire them and replace them with Rob Dibble!
 

[hohoho]

Team picked a heck of a time to go into a hitting slump. Pressing?

[stealyerbase]

freak Lance Barksdale and Gary Cedarstrom.
Bring on the robots.
It’s right there for everyone to see.
They truly suck.

[natsarl]

I guess we were due for the traditional ugly Game 5 but it just came later this year. Let’s make the first Game 6 in Nationals history a

[imref]

feeling pretty good about our prospects in game 6, just need to start hitting.  Trust in Strasburg.

[mitlen]

feeling pretty good about our prospects in game 6, just need to start hitting.  Trust in Strasburg.

For as funky as the fanbase feels, we're in this thing.     Stay in the Fight   ....

[Five Banners]

I feel bad for all of you who paid really good money for seats to watch this crap. I went back and forth for days but ultimately couldn’t justify it. You all deserved better.

Glad for those who saved money. Glad for those who went and got to experience it. It had been a REAL long time

[RobDibblesGhost]

https://twitter.com/umpireejections/status/1188675455424978945?s=21

Final UEFL/Statcast/Pitch f/x numbers for #WorldSeries  (#Astros vs #Nationals) Game 5 HP Umpire Lance Barksdale: 96/97 Balls + 41/46 Strikes = 95.8%. +0 Neutral (Didn't favor Washington nor Houston). #HOUvsWSH



Not sure I agree with that assessment. I’m not into all those stats but it looks to me like he missed only six calls according to this, three in each team’s favor.  I’ll be interested to see how UmpireAuditor rated him - they tend to be harsher.

[nattily attired]

https://twitter.com/umpireejections/status/1188675455424978945?s=21

Final UEFL/Statcast/Pitch f/x numbers for #WorldSeries  (#Astros vs #Nationals) Game 5 HP Umpire Lance Barksdale: 96/97 Balls + 41/46 Strikes = 95.8%. +0 Neutral (Didn't favor Washington nor Houston). #HOUvsWSH



Not sure I agree with that assessment. I’m not into all those stats but it looks to me like he missed only six calls according to this, three in each team’s favor.  I’ll be interested to see how UmpireAuditor rated him - they tend to be harsher.

Game 3


Umpire Auditor
@UmpireAuditor
#WorldSeries2019 Game 3 Umpire Report

Name: Gary Cederstrom
Correct Call Rate: 91.5%
Calls helping #Nationals: 3
Calls helping #Astros: 11
Largest miss: 1.67 inches

[JCA-CrystalCity]

I also think Kevrock's point about the leverage of the miss is spot on.  As important as getting ahead in the count can be, blowing strike 1 is less critical than a miss on a two strike count.  Calling a ball a strike on a 3-2 pitch with 2 outs and runners on against a trailing team happens, but it undeniably high leverage.

I got a kick out of the "make up call" heckling when Hudson I think started the next hitter after Robles with a pitch that seemed like a ball from the stands but was called a strike.  i think that was one that got Hinch upset.

[Natsinpwc]

https://twitter.com/umpireejections/status/1188675455424978945?s=21

Final UEFL/Statcast/Pitch f/x numbers for #WorldSeries  (#Astros vs #Nationals) Game 5 HP Umpire Lance Barksdale: 96/97 Balls + 41/46 Strikes = 95.8%. +0 Neutral (Didn't favor Washington nor Houston). #HOUvsWSH



Not sure I agree with that assessment. I’m not into all those stats but it looks to me like he missed only six calls according to this, three in each team’s favor.  I’ll be interested to see how UmpireAuditor rated him - they tend to be harsher.

If this is accurate then the box on Fox Tv is not accurate.

[WashingtonWizards23]

This season is a fluke we won’t sniff another World Series in the next 2 decades

[WashingtonWizards23]

Without Rendon and Strasburg next season it’s probably the best time to punt the season and trust the process

[Slateman]

Without Rendon and Strasburg next season it’s probably the best time to punt the season and trust the process

Unless San Diego offers Stras a stupid amount of money (like 8 years, 250 million), Stras will be back.

[Five Banners]

This season is a fluke we won’t sniff another World Series in the next 2 decades

Have fun

[expos1994]

Without Rendon and Strasburg next season it’s probably the best time to punt the season and trust the process

So annoying when people speculate like this just to be negative.

There's plenty to be negative about without making stuff up that hasn't happened.

[spidernat]

If this is accurate then the box on Fox Tv is not accurate.

the problem is that identical pitches that were called strikes for the astros were not called strikes for our guys,

[Five Banners]

the problem is that identical pitches that were called strikes for the astros were not called strikes for our guys,

This. Anyone thinking that Verlander -- especially with the story line of getting playoff win off his back -- will get squeezed, have fun with that.  If so, I hope it is another part of the push to automate the strike zone

[mitlen]

the problem is that identical pitches that were called strikes for the astros were not called strikes for our guys,

That's where I'm at.    It's not the "right and wrong" of the call as much as the consistency of the calls.   On my walk-about, I was wondering if stats exist to show the number of pitches that Barksdale called differently in different situations  ...  regardless of who was pitching and/or who was at bat.    For instance, the pitch location to Robles was called differently earlier and later in the game.

[natsarl]

This season is a fluke we won’t sniff another World Series in the next 2 decades

lol, wut

[Kevrock]

I also think Kevrock's point about the leverage of the miss is spot on.  As important as getting ahead in the count can be, blowing strike 1 is less critical than a miss on a two strike count.  Calling a ball a strike on a 3-2 pitch with 2 outs and runners on against a trailing team happens, but it undeniably high leverage.

Yeah. Umpires know this, and do (or, should) lean toward allowing teams to settle it on the field. So typically a borderline call situation (this wasn’t borderline I would argue) in a high leverage situation, an umpire should lean toward calling a ball because Cole will have a chance to get the Nats batter and the Nats still need to execute. A strike here was catastrophic to the Nats and took the bat out of their hands.

[Mighty Casey]

at least the robots won't be motivated by $$$ or an in-house memo to rig the game

[Kevrock]

Oof, tried to edit for clarity.

It was a really oddly umpired game. The Astros hitters got tons of respect that ours didn’t get on borderline pitches. Completely blown call resulted in an Astro homer in the same AB. Blown call against Robles.

The Astros were all over the umpire on obvious balls (to Zimmerman, among others) and that seemed to culminate in the umpire caving and ringing up Robles.

The Astros are really great. But watching them work umpires is kind of like watching Duke Basketball ride refs, and I don’t enjoy it.

[NatNasty]

at least the robots won't be motivated by $$$ or an in-house memo to rig the game

Whoever's programming the robots might.

[mitlen]

Whoever's programming the robots might.

    There's always hacking.