Extend Soto

[bluestreak]

I always wondered if Boras kept some kind of kitty, or gets them some kind of insurance to for guys like Soto.   You're right, the risk/reward equation doesn't play make sense to each individual player.

I’m positive he has insurance. Just don’t know how much. Like if he gets hurt does it pay out 9 figures. And what if he doesn’t get hurt, but just doesn’t perform?

[varoadking]

And what if he doesn’t get hurt, but just doesn’t perform?

Boras will kneecap him...

[Ali the Baseball Cat]

Lloyds of London insures pro athletes ("loss of value" insurance).  Funny that a 20 year old playing a game represents greater financial risk than a supertanker that sails through war zones.  Funny old world.

[imref]

Via Dan Kolko:

Over his last 162 games, Juan Soto has 40 HR, 16 SB, 136 BB & 126 R. He’s only the 11th player ever to have 40+ HR/15+ SB /125+ BB/125+ R over any 162-game span in their careers.

The others: Ruth, Gehrig, Mantle, Yastrzemski, Schmidt, Bonds, Sheffield, Bagwell, Chipper, Trout.

[Smithian]

Three more years to enjoy him.

[Slateman]

Three more years to enjoy him.

At most. Hopefully we use him to stockpile the farm

[imref]

Maybe we should shut Soto down for the season just to keep him from getting hurt, he's the last one left standing.

[Natsinpwc]

Maybe we should shut Soto down for the season just to keep him from getting hurt, he's the last one left standing.

Zimm is healthy.  How about that.  I guess playing once a week works for him.

[imref]

Rizzo: “Juan Soto is the core of our team and we would be remiss if we didn’t try to sign him long term. Soto will be our linchpin and he’s as important a part of this franchise as anybody.”

[Mattionals]

Rizzo: “Juan Soto is the core of our team and we would be remiss if we didn’t try to sign him long term. Soto will be our linchpin and he’s as important a part of this franchise as anybody.”

Back up the BRINKS truck. Dude needs to be the next Ryan Zimmerman.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

I'm beginning to hate the "Extend" threads because it never happens.

[KV]

Soto should sign a mega 10-year deal and hit free agency again at 33. He might end up clearing a billion dollars over his career.

[imref]

I'm beginning to hate the "Extend" threads because it never happens.

Strasburg and Harrison!

[Smithian]

Soto should sign a mega 10-year deal and hit free agency again at 33. He might end up clearing a billion dollars over his career.

I feel like the Nationals are waiting to see what happens with new CBA. If we get through 2022 then enter the 2023 season without Soto extended, I’ll start believing him to be gone.

[GburgNatsFan]

Strasburg and Harrison!

Harrison? Which jag am I forgetting about?

[Smithian]

I'm beginning to hate the "Extend" threads because it never happens.

Zimmerman’s extension wasn’t insignificant at the time.

[sixthree175]

I'm beginning to hate the "Extend" threads because it never happens.

Agreed.  It's so much fantasy.  Juan already brought us a WS victory.  And his market value is through the roof.  If you can't extend him now, then trade him in the off season to a team outside the division. Imagine what it can bring in.

[hohoho]

The Nats ownership wants to win without spending and turn a profit without risk.  For example, you have Dodgers rated 7th in market size (because two teams?) and the Nats rated 9th, yet the Dodgers have almost twice the payroll as the Nats.

[SkinsNatFan21RIP]

Agreed.  It's so much fantasy.  Juan already brought us a WS victory.  And his market value is through the roof.  If you can't extend him now, then trade him in the off season to a team outside the division. Imagine what it can bring in.

It won’t bring in anything comparable to his value. If you were ever going to pay someone this is that someone. Don’t be dumb about this.

[sixthree175]

It won’t bring in anything comparable to his value. If you were ever going to pay someone this is that someone. Don’t be dumb about this.

We don't know what he would bring in because he's never been shopped.

[hohoho]

I’ll ask again: What is so sacrosanct about the soft cap? Paying the luxury tax is an indication ownership is in it to win as opposed to simply avoiding any risk. (And such caps enforced by mlb should be illegal.)

[hohoho]

We don't know what he would bring in because he's never been shopped.

Maybe we could get 4 prospects for one player rather than two players. 

[Natsinpwc]

I’ll ask again: What is so sacrosanct about the soft cap? Paying the luxury tax is an indication ownership is in it to win as opposed to simply avoiding any risk. (And such caps enforced by mlb should be illegal.)

The other major sports all have versions of caps/luxury tax.  They vary but are based upon negotiated agreements with the unions.  I agree ownership should be willing to exceed. 

[SkinsNatFan21RIP]

We don't know what he would bring in because he's never been shopped.

And the Nats would still be giving up one of the games great young talents for prospects. Prospects are hit and miss. You already know how good/great Soto is. He’s not Mike Trout but I think the situations are similar. At what point is a player so good that the return you’d get simply isn’t worth the risk? That’s how I feel about Soto.

[varoadking]

And the Nats would still be giving up one of the games great young talents for prospects. Prospects are hit and miss. You already know how good/great Soto is. He’s not Mike Trout but I think the situations are similar. At what point is a player so good that the return you’d get simply isn’t worth the risk? That’s how I feel about Soto.

This begs the question...had the Lerner's picked Mike Trout instead of "He Who Shall Not Be Mentioned", would they have let him walk when it came time for big money?