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Offline mitlen

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #225: October 13, 2019, 02:39:29 PM »
actually, it was Sanchez, Scherzer, Verlander, plus porky and Fister.  I think they got Price in 2014, to replace Fister. 

I liked Mister Fister.


BTW    Game 2 is on MLB TV.

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #226: October 13, 2019, 02:46:57 PM »
I liked Mister Fister.
still one of the most popular jerseys for guys who were spare parts on the Nats and have moved on.

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #227: October 13, 2019, 02:50:12 PM »
It's interesting to analyze why great teams don't win, and "wild card" teams do. I can't say for certain that the Nats are better than the Dodgers, but they were when it counted. People kept saying that the Dodgers hadn't played a meaninful game in months. So maybe that (non) competetive stretch kept the Dodgers down? I think that our starting pitching staff is the main reason why we are where we are. I'm happy to see Eaton and Taylor produce big-time in game 2. Of course, the Rendon-Soto combo is an obvious strength. Let's hope Strasburg continues the top-notch pitching and we can win raise the NL pennant at home!

Because MLB plays such a long season, the team that ends the season can be very different from the one that started it.  Injuries play a part, changes in the roster can play a part, players themselves can figure it out or can get figured out. 

The September 2019 Nats team is a far cry from the one that started the season.  Just for starters, all of the following were on the opening-day roster: Barraclough, Difo, Grace, Hellickson, Miller, Noll, Rosenthal, Sanchez, Sipp and Stevenson. 

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #228: October 13, 2019, 02:58:14 PM »
actually, it was Sanchez, Scherzer, Verlander, plus porky and Fister.  I think they got Price in 2014, to replace Fister.

2014 Tigers lost to Baltimore in a sweep despite the following pitching matchups:

Max Scherzer vs. Chris Tillman
Justin Verlander vs. Wei-Yin Chen
David Price vs. Bud Norris

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #229: October 13, 2019, 03:38:20 PM »
Not really, fingers crossed, but this so far is playing a lot like Caps in '18. After a long and heavily littered variety of chokes and series defeats from 2008-2017 I think most caps fans gave up on the Ovy era following the failed pending free agent heavy '16-'17 run. Then suddenly, it all came together in '17-'18 w/a roster that was fundamentally weaker than half a dozen previous rosters. This Nats team isn't inferior so much as just Bryce-less, and following Simmons "Ewing Theory" model. Please, please let it play out exactly like the '17-'18 Caps playoff run.

You're hoping we clinch the Series in Vegas?

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #230: October 13, 2019, 08:33:23 PM »
Waking up this morning and still struggling to accept that this is happening.  We are in completely unchartered territory.

How's everyone doing?


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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #231: October 13, 2019, 08:45:18 PM »
You're hoping we clinch the Series in Vegas?

House money

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #232: October 13, 2019, 09:01:39 PM »
Because MLB plays such a long season, the team that ends the season can be very different from the one that started it.  Injuries play a part, changes in the roster can play a part, players themselves can figure it out or can get figured out. 

The September 2019 Nats team is a far cry from the one that started the season.  Just for starters, all of the following were on the opening-day roster: Barraclough, Difo, Grace, Hellickson, Miller, Noll, Rosenthal, Sanchez, Sipp and Stevenson.

One of those guys sort of stands out.

But otherwise, you are correct.  For sure, teams change over the course of a season. Some suffer injuries to key guys and decline, others make moves that improve themselves.  Obviously Nats fall into the latter.

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #233: October 13, 2019, 09:17:31 PM »
One of those guys sort of stands out.

But otherwise, you are correct.  For sure, teams change over the course of a season. Some suffer injuries to key guys and decline, others make moves that improve themselves.  Obviously Nats fall into the latter.

Oops. Thanks for the catch.

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #234: October 13, 2019, 09:18:43 PM »
I think he may mean Adrian...

 :doh:

I'd totally blocked him out of my mind. 

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #235: October 13, 2019, 09:19:54 PM »
:doh:

I'd totally blocked him out of my mind.

That's OK...he wasn't on the Opening day roster anyway...

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #236: October 13, 2019, 09:25:27 PM »
That's OK...he wasn't on the Opening day roster anyway...

Yes, that was my dumbass mistake.  He didn't come up to the team until Turner broke his finger.

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #237: October 14, 2019, 12:06:39 AM »
I'm not following the betting line, so this is just a guess - Cards have Flaherty and Hudson the next two games. I suspect Cards are favored for the first game and the second game is even.  This is not going to be easy.

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #238: October 14, 2019, 12:27:06 AM »
I'm not following the betting line, so this is just a guess - Cards have Flaherty and Hudson the next two games. I suspect Cards are favored for the first game and the second game is even.  This is not going to be easy.

Waahington is the favorite on the money line (-130). So about a 56% chance of winning.

St. Louis is 41-40 on the road. Nats are 50-31 at home.

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #239: October 14, 2019, 12:28:07 AM »
  This is not going to be easy.




you missed last night's thread about it being a foregone conclusion

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #240: October 14, 2019, 12:36:39 AM »
I'm not following the betting line, so this is just a guess - Cards have Flaherty and Hudson the next two games. I suspect Cards are favored for the first game and the second game is even.  This is not going to be easy.

Nats are favored across the board tomorrow night, from what I see.  Don't know about 4.

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #241: October 14, 2019, 03:15:57 AM »
Not sure either of those home/road records matter, for like the 1st 2 games, it's all going to come down to how well these 2 starting pitchers can control the game.

Waahington is the favorite on the money line (-130). So about a 56% chance of winning.

St. Louis is 41-40 on the road. Nats are 50-31 at home.

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #242: October 14, 2019, 06:41:11 AM »
Big game tonight. Keep the pressure on!

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #243: October 14, 2019, 06:45:20 AM »
Why is Robles still on roster?

When Matt Adams got the single and they didn't pinch run Robles or Parra, either Martinez fell asleep or he still thinks he has a short bench. I think Robles has now missed five games. Reaching point in hindsight he should have been put on DL.

Give Martinez credit, he has Nats in the NLCS even though between his bench and bullpen this roster has a half dozen players he is scared to let on the field.

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #244: October 14, 2019, 07:55:23 AM »
Why is Robles still on roster?

When Matt Adams got the single and they didn't pinch run Robles or Parra, either Martinez fell asleep or he still thinks he has a short bench. I think Robles has now missed five games. Reaching point in hindsight he should have been put on DL.

Give Martinez credit, he has Nats in the NLCS even though between his bench and bullpen this roster has a half dozen players he is scared to let on the field.
I believe that Robles is on the roster because if they sub him out for someone like Stevenson he is ineligible for the WS.

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #245: October 14, 2019, 08:08:21 AM »
Robles is close to being ready. He could be in the starting lineup tonight.

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #246: October 14, 2019, 08:10:29 AM »
I believe that Robles is on the roster because if they sub him out for someone like Stevenson he is ineligible for the WS.

That's what I recall as well. If you go on the IL you have to miss the next series which in this instance would be THE series.

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #247: October 14, 2019, 08:25:43 AM »
Boswell is stoked too.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/the-nationals-unforgettable-season-is-about-to-reach-another-level/2019/10/12/bf816fac-ec93-11e9-85c0-85a098e47b37_story.html?fbclid=IwAR0qwiZlmPeB1sSPHr2Parq_Aq0kjN1bg9yUBbMe5qoGhlKkqEijTPwwD4Y
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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #248: October 14, 2019, 08:47:09 AM »
Tonight's game sold out?

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Re: 2019 NLCS - Here come the Cardinals!
« Reply #249: October 14, 2019, 08:55:24 AM »
Tonight's game sold out?



Yes, indeed. All NLCS will be packed to the gills.