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Offline vernon337

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Re: EXTEND DAVEY
« Reply #100: October 16, 2019, 02:50:13 PM »
Winning percentages of Nationals managers:

Dusty Baker: .593
Matt Williams: .553
Davey Johnson: .550
Dave Martinez: .540

Beyond the obvious difference in playoff records, consider the winning percentages for each of those in their second years as an MLB manager:

Baker: .494
Williams: .512
Martinez: .574
Johnson: .605

Now consider the change in winning percentage from their first to their second years as an MLB manager:

Baker: -.158
Williams: -.081
Johnson: + .049
Martinez: +.069

I actually liked the job both Baker and Johnson did, but Martinez showed real growth from last year to this year and from early in the season to late in the season.  We may have had to suffer from some OJT for him, but he has been impressive post All-Star break. 

Of course, some Nats fans are so entrenched in their position about the need to get rid of him that it may be impossible for them to change their minds, given the fact that any manager is going to make enough mistakes over time to provide ammunition for the Fire-Him crowd. 

But those who are willing to change their minds when the cumulative body of evidence points in another direction have some solid reasons for thinking Martinez has become an asset to the team.

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Re: EXTEND DAVEY
« Reply #101: October 29, 2019, 11:44:51 PM »
Extend him now!!!! :whip:

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« Reply #102: October 29, 2019, 11:58:26 PM »

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« Reply #103: October 30, 2019, 12:06:23 AM »
Extend him now!!!! :whip:

Concentrate on his heart rate first

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« Reply #104: October 30, 2019, 09:09:53 AM »
I'm starting to like Davey.

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« Reply #105: October 30, 2019, 09:16:58 AM »
I'm starting to like Davey.

After last night, he's becoming tolerable.      :couch:

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« Reply #106: October 30, 2019, 10:03:55 AM »
After last night, he's becoming tolerable.      :couch:

tolerable = best manager in Nats history?

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« Reply #107: October 30, 2019, 11:09:50 AM »
+1 for extending Davey

I also want Parra back just for his ability to give hugs to Strasburg. 

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« Reply #108: October 30, 2019, 11:25:52 AM »
I really thought he was going to hit someone last night. He about pulled Bogars shirt off. He was pissed. And that was after the 2 run homer. Imagine if no runs had scored. he would be watching game 7 from jail tonight

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« Reply #109: October 30, 2019, 12:37:50 PM »
Have we figured out what set Dave Martinez off between innings? I almost wonder if he was still jawing from the dugout and the umpire said something back that set him off.

I know the call and the handling was catastrophic, but to go back out there for another bite was weird to me. It had to be something worthy of him being thrown out of a three run game in the World Series. I know they set game plans to follow beforehand, but you want your manager in the seat calling the shots.

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« Reply #110: October 30, 2019, 12:55:11 PM »
Have we figured out what set Dave Martinez off between innings? I almost wonder if he was still jawing from the dugout and the umpire said something back that set him off.

I know the call and the handling was catastrophic, but to go back out there for another bite was weird to me. It had to be something worthy of him being thrown out of a three run game in the World Series. I know they set game plans to follow beforehand, but you want your manager in the seat calling the shots.

The third base ump told Davey “control your dugout”

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Re: EXTEND DAVEY
« Reply #111: October 30, 2019, 01:05:03 PM »
tolerable = I may listen to his press conference with interest.

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« Reply #112: October 31, 2019, 12:00:29 AM »
what a masterful job this entire postseason by Martinez.  You’ve gotta wonder if him getting ejected in Game 6 galvanized the team even more!  Although, I like to think we still would have whooped them tonight even without that happening.

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« Reply #113: October 31, 2019, 12:01:20 AM »
BUILD THE MAN A CYBORG STATUE

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« Reply #114: October 31, 2019, 12:06:02 AM »
under absolutely no circumstances should he go into next season without an extension

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« Reply #116: October 31, 2019, 01:23:04 AM »
zimmerman saying Davey was exactly the same no matter whether they were winning or losing, never thought about self preservation in tough times like other manager's he's had.  Always was positive.

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« Reply #117: October 31, 2019, 02:35:34 AM »
So we gonna fire him yet or nah?

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« Reply #118: October 31, 2019, 09:35:26 AM »
zimmerman saying Davey was exactly the same no matter whether they were winning or losing, never thought about self preservation in tough times like other manager's he's had.  Always was positive.
an amazing point to say publicly. 

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« Reply #119: October 31, 2019, 01:18:36 PM »
an amazing point to say publicly. 




agreed, he said managers will say the right things until things go south and then they start thinking about self preservation

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Re: EXTEND DAVEY
« Reply #120: November 01, 2019, 06:11:07 PM »
Did we interview Martinez prior to hiring Matt William's or Dusty Baker? I know some of us here wanted Martinez after the 2015 season. Curious if he was interviewed.

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« Reply #121: November 01, 2019, 06:58:24 PM »



agreed, he said managers will say the right things until things go south and then they start thinking about self preservation
He didn't just say other managers. He made the statement after talking about having played under a lot of different managers. It kind of came across like he was throwing the likes of Manny Acta, Riggleman, Davey, Matt and Dusty under the bus. I don't have an opinion on any of those guys' approachability, but it did strike me as an odd comment. I assume he just didn't express himself well and made a generic comment when he only had one or two people in mind.

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Re: EXTEND DAVEY
« Reply #122: November 01, 2019, 08:48:46 PM »
Did we interview Martinez prior to hiring Matt William's or Dusty Baker? I know some of us here wanted Martinez after the 2015 season. Curious if he was interviewed.

Pretty sure we interviewed him before hiring dusty

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« Reply #123: November 02, 2019, 11:43:29 AM »
He didn't just say other managers. He made the statement after talking about having played under a lot of different managers. It kind of came across like he was throwing the likes of Manny Acta, Riggleman, Davey, Matt and Dusty under the bus. I don't have an opinion on any of those guys' approachability, but it did strike me as an odd comment. I assume he just didn't express himself well and made a generic comment when he only had one or two people in mind.
I think that stretch of Riggleman, Johnson, and Williams was what he may have been talking about. Johnson checked out when 2013 was tough, the other two managed panicked. Dusty was level.

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« Reply #124: November 02, 2019, 01:38:02 PM »
He didn't just say other managers. He made the statement after talking about having played under a lot of different managers. It kind of came across like he was throwing the likes of Manny Acta, Riggleman, Davey, Matt and Dusty under the bus.
And Frank?