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Offline LoveAngelos

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #175: March 28, 2019, 02:01:47 PM »
I would fire Martinez before the top of the 4th

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #176: March 28, 2019, 03:20:53 PM »
So freaking bad.

Offline LoveAngelos

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #177: March 28, 2019, 03:35:23 PM »
Yes and uh



Let's have Zimmerman protect Soto and bring in  uh Grace yeah that's it
Against Cano

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #178: March 28, 2019, 03:39:53 PM »
Dry humping Sipp

Offline rileyn

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #179: March 28, 2019, 04:03:11 PM »
I won't kill Martinez for the Robles base running blunder. The player has to react in that situation, but my God he is an awful manager.

The whole leaving Scherzer in to bat for himself in the 7th, with 2 outs, down 1, and at 93 pitches is incredible.  He let Max talk him into it.  Then, if you are going to let Max bat and have go out for 8th, let him finish the job with 2 out.  You've already blown him over 100 pitches at this point.  If you don't want to burn Adams, then let Noll or freaking Difo hit.

Miller and then Grace with Sipp sitting on his ass in the bullpen to protect the 1 run lead.  Jesus H, Davey!!!   Apparently Sipp was ready too, because Martinez ended up dry humping him in the 9th.  Please admit your mistakes and fire this man before Saturday's game. 

For the record, Rosenthal was also dry humped today.


Offline Natsinpwc

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #180: March 28, 2019, 04:10:26 PM »
After The manager explains why he left Max in we probably still won’t have any idea of why he did it.

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #181: March 28, 2019, 04:25:51 PM »
I just can't all year with this clueless decision making :panic:

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #182: March 28, 2019, 04:29:31 PM »
To me his worst managerial trait is the dry humping. In Year 2 it is just totally unacceptable.

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #183: March 28, 2019, 04:30:13 PM »
Shouldnt have let Max start the game

Offline LoveAngelos

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #184: March 28, 2019, 04:36:31 PM »
It will be the same as last year with this idiot a's manger.
Let's protect Soto with Zimmerman.
Let's bring in Grace to face Cano.


GD the Lerners for thinking not paying for a good manager is worth it.

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #185: March 28, 2019, 05:02:46 PM »
Martinez on why he let Max bat for himself, "I was trying to give him a chance to stay in the game and win the game.  I knew we had six out with our top guys coming up."

OMG.  My head is going to explode.  Was he watching the game?  Who is his sounding board?  Do we have a bench coach that can provide input and save him from himself?

Manage to get your team wins, not your starters. 

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #186: March 28, 2019, 05:03:56 PM »
Martinez on why he let Max bat for himself, "I was trying to give him a chance to stay in the game and win the game.  I knew we had six out with our top guys coming up."

OMG.  My head is going to explode.  Was he watching the game?  Who is his sounding board?  Do we have a bench coach that can provide input and save him from himself?

Manage to get your team wins, not your starters. 

That was the place to pinch-hit Matt Adams (assuming the Mets didn't have a LHP in the pen, I'm not sure)

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #187: March 28, 2019, 05:07:50 PM »
That was the place to pinch-hit Matt Adams (assuming the Mets didn't have a LHP in the pen, I'm not sure)
Yes, and the time NOT to pinch hit Adams, is when the bases are empty and you need 2 runs, not 1 run.  If down 1, go with Adams. 

Offline Greg_SRT

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #188: March 28, 2019, 05:14:56 PM »
If I’m not mistaken they did have a lefty in the pen when Max was coming up.

I can’t with you all. This isn’t on Dave.

If you are gonna blame Dave on anything, blame Dave for sending Trea 3 times. We had scoring opportunities because Trea hit and Dave sent Trea.

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #189: March 28, 2019, 05:17:47 PM »
If I’m not mistaken they did have a lefty in the pen when Max was coming up.

I can’t with you all. This isn’t on Dave.

If you are gonna blame Dave on anything, blame Dave for sending Trea 3 times. We had scoring opportunities because Trea hit and Dave sent Trea.

No I'm not blaming Dave for the loss but it's dereliction of his duty as our skipper to keep Max out there for over 100 pitches on the first freaking game of the year. 

Offline rileyn

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #190: March 28, 2019, 05:18:42 PM »
If I’m not mistaken they did have a lefty in the pen when Max was coming up.

I can’t with you all. This isn’t on Dave.

If you are gonna blame Dave on anything, blame Dave for sending Trea 3 times. We had scoring opportunities because Trea hit and Dave sent Trea.

So you like the matchup of our starting pitcher at 93 pitches hitting against Lugo, more than Adams against their lefty? Come on Man. 

How about the dry humping?  He is determined to wear out our best pitcher and our bullpen in game 1.  Same old same old.


Offline Greg_SRT

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #191: March 28, 2019, 05:51:51 PM »
So you like the matchup of our starting pitcher at 93 pitches hitting against Lugo, more than Adams against their lefty? Come on Man. 

How about the dry humping?  He is determined to wear out our best pitcher and our bullpen in game 1.  Same old same old.

And I am sure of the posts in the thread if Adams makes an out against a lefty that was ready to pitch to him.

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #192: March 28, 2019, 05:57:57 PM »
And I am sure of the posts in the thread if Adams makes an out against a lefty that was ready to pitch to him.
The bigger issue is why burn out Max in the first game and have relievers warm up and not pitch. It’s not likely pinch hitting would have won the game.

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #193: March 28, 2019, 06:01:14 PM »
The bigger issue is why burn out Max in the first game and have relievers warm up and not pitch. It’s not likely pinch hitting would have won the game.

I'm in.    I questioned letting Max stay in the first game of the season.    Then I thought how I'd be nagin' about dave burning through our bullpen like he did last year.    :shrug:

Offline Greg_SRT

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #194: March 28, 2019, 06:01:59 PM »
The bigger issue is why burn out Max in the first game and have relievers warm up and not pitch. It’s not likely pinch hitting would have won the game.

If I had to guess with no actual knowledge of the conversation in the dugout like everyone else here, Max probably himself swayed Dave to do this. Probably told Max if his spot comes up with a runner on, he’s gonna get pulled.

Dave managed the game as if they were still in it. Max wanted to continue.

Offline DCFan

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #195: March 28, 2019, 06:06:57 PM »
The bigger issue is why burn out Max in the first game and have relievers warm up and not pitch.

I questioned the decision to leave Max in but we have an off day tomorrow so the relievers who didn't pitch can rest up just like those that did.

Offline tenken627

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #196: March 28, 2019, 06:08:24 PM »
If I had to guess with no actual knowledge of the conversation in the dugout like everyone else here, Max probably himself swayed Dave to do this. Probably told Max if his spot comes up with a runner on, he’s gonna get pulled.

Dave managed the game as if they were still in it. Max wanted to continue.


Of course Max wanted to stay in. Its Max.

But Max doesnt make the calls.

And its the first game of the season. Not August during a pennant race. This is the first time since last season that Max is pitching in a real game. Not simulated, not spring training where you throw 4-5 innings. The arm needs to get used to that kind of strain again.

Offline mitlen

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #197: March 28, 2019, 06:09:23 PM »
I questioned the decision to leave Max in but we have an off day tomorrow so the relievers who didn't pitch can rest up just like those that did.

Do you believe dave actually thought that through?       :couch:

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #198: March 28, 2019, 06:14:08 PM »
Do you believe dave actually thought that through?       :couch:

Absolutely! He studied from the master and it shows. :crackup:

Offline Greg_SRT

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #199: March 28, 2019, 06:15:48 PM »
Of course Max wanted to stay in. Its Max.

But Max doesnt make the calls.

And its the first game of the season. Not August during a pennant race. This is the first time since last season that Max is pitching in a real game. Not simulated, not spring training where you throw 4-5 innings. The arm needs to get used to that kind of strain again.

And we are better at determining what’s best for Max than Max is?

If Max is upset he went out there then that would change things. But something tells me he’s in on the decision