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Offline PowerBoater69

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #475: April 03, 2019, 08:42:24 PM »
Because first base was open...

Walking him prevented him from moving a runner to third or beyond. Also allowed the possibility of a double play.

Come on PB. You aren’t that dumb.

Just seemed like a bunch of free bases this week and a lot of them ended up runs. The one that got me was Tuesday, giving a free pass to the #8 hitter with two outs, before they scored on the wild pitch. I'd always go after the #8 guy so that the pitcher leads off the next inning. The one today might have been the right move, but the free bag did result in a run.

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #476: April 03, 2019, 08:43:34 PM »
Because first base was open...

Walking him prevented him from moving a runner to third or beyond. Also allowed the possibility of a double play.

Come on PB. You aren’t that dumb.

I got so mad at the IBB, lol. I'm all for pitching around Harper but why stand up and make it intentional 3-1? Just throw a ball, maybe he chases..

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« Reply #477: April 03, 2019, 08:50:07 PM »
I got so mad at the IBB, lol. I'm all for pitching around Harper but why stand up and make it intentional 3-1? Just throw a ball, maybe he chases..

Or even throw it inside a little.

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #478: April 03, 2019, 09:41:42 PM »

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #479: April 03, 2019, 09:54:05 PM »
I got so mad at the IBB, lol. I'm all for pitching around Harper but why stand up and make it intentional 3-1? Just throw a ball, maybe he chases..
Because what if Sanchez misses and hangs it over the plate and Harper crushes it into next week?

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #480: April 03, 2019, 09:54:55 PM »
Because what if Sanchez misses and hangs it over the plate and Harper crushes it into next week?

It would give us some additional stuff to nag about  ....   :)

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #481: April 03, 2019, 10:02:00 PM »
It would give us some additional stuff to nag about  ....   :)
Yea, theres a lack of that round these parts

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #482: April 03, 2019, 10:02:28 PM »
Because what if Sanchez misses and hangs it over the plate and Harper crushes it into next week?




how does this not occur to people who have been watching baseball for some time. :smh:

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #483: April 04, 2019, 06:37:06 AM »
Because what if Sanchez misses and hangs it over the plate and Harper crushes it into next week?
Don't miss.  Sanchez ain't Rosenthal.

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #484: April 04, 2019, 07:04:45 AM »
It occurred to me and I understand the decision, thanks Spider. I just think it's wrong.

I'm in favor of pitching around Harper like Maddon did to get him frustrated, that involves poking around outside the zone to get him impatient. If you can't trust a vet pitcher to execute a strategy we have bigger problems.

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #485: April 04, 2019, 07:22:44 AM »
Don't miss.  Sanchez ain't Rosenthal.
After his quad got dinged, Sanchez wasn't very good

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #486: April 04, 2019, 07:23:43 AM »
It occurred to me and I understand the decision, thanks Spider. I just think it's wrong.

I'm in favor of pitching around Harper like Maddon did to get him frustrated, that involves poking around outside the zone to get him impatient. If you can't trust a vet pitcher to execute a strategy we have bigger problems.
The problem with that is that the Phillies don't have Ryan Zimmerman with a shoulder injury behind him. They have Rhys Hoskins and JT Realmuto.

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #487: April 04, 2019, 07:28:09 AM »
There are rumors going around that Martinez had a sit down with Juan Soto and basically told him to go back to what worked best for him. Take your walks, be disciplined, go the other way.

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #488: April 04, 2019, 07:39:30 AM »
There are rumors going around that Martinez had a sit down with Juan Soto and basically told him to go back to what worked best for him. Take your walks, be disciplined, go the other way.

That can’t be true it just can’t be

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #489: April 04, 2019, 07:43:04 AM »
There are rumors going around that Martinez had a sit down with Juan Soto and basically told him to go back to what worked best for him. Take your walks, be disciplined, go the other way.
Did he have a sit down with Rosenthal also?  Might want to think about that since all of a sudden he has the magic touch.

The players are defending Martinez because they are afraid they will get a tough SOB manager.

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #490: April 04, 2019, 07:54:58 AM »
Did he have a sit down with Rosenthal also?  Might want to think about that since all of a sudden he has the magic touch.

The players are defending Martinez because they are afraid they will get a tough SOB manager.
I'm not sure what people were expecting from Rosenthal, to be honest. There's a reason that r/baseball has memes about the Trevor Rosenthal Experience. Obviously I don't think he's this bad, but he was never consistent.

Also, Rosenthal's problem is different all together. Soto was trying to do too much. He was pressing at the plate. Rosenthal is lost right now.

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #491: April 04, 2019, 08:05:24 AM »
Don't miss.  Sanchez ain't Rosenthal.

Right, hit the corners, walk him if you have to, but the idea that we'd give him a free pass for 19 games doesn't account for just how low his BA has been.

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #492: April 04, 2019, 08:09:00 AM »
There are rumors going around that Martinez had a sit down with Juan Soto and basically told him to go back to what worked best for him. Take your walks, be disciplined, go the other way.

There's also a rumor that the sky is blue, what else is Martinez going to do with his 20 super star?

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #493: April 04, 2019, 08:10:26 AM »
Davey said the other day he told Soto to take walks and swing at strikes. Seems like solid advice?

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #494: April 04, 2019, 08:11:59 AM »
Davey said the other day he told Soto to take walks and swing at strikes. Seems like solid advice?
I’m applying for manager if that’s all it takes. I plan to telecommute. Can work cheap.

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #495: April 04, 2019, 08:16:21 AM »
I’m applying for manager if that’s all it takes. I plan to telecommute. Can work cheap.

Last night I told my ten year olds not to throw the ball if the runner is already on base, can I join your coaching staff?

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #496: April 04, 2019, 08:17:28 AM »
I’m applying for manager if that’s all it takes. I plan to telecommute. Can work cheap.

I thought you were applyin' for Grunfeld's job?

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #497: April 04, 2019, 08:22:06 AM »
Boswell has ripped Dave, the Nats and Bryce new ones in his column today. He’s had it with Dave. :crackup:

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #498: April 04, 2019, 08:37:33 AM »
I’m applying for manager if that’s all it takes. I plan to telecommute. Can work cheap.

it's a simple game; you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the ball.....

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Re: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2019)
« Reply #499: April 04, 2019, 08:40:11 AM »
The problem with that is that the Phillies don't have Ryan Zimmerman with a shoulder injury behind him. They have Rhys Hoskins and JT Realmuto.

I'll go RHP/RHB Hoskins instead of red hot Harper all day