I don't get to listen to him much so I mostly know him from Twitter. Definitely he should have backed off in this case and let Martinez speak and certainly a little push back would have been more appropriate.
I usually do my walk abouts around 10 AM so I get to listen "regularly". I find his interactions to be in the vein of "I'm smarter than you and your interpretation/knowledge is lacking." He even does this occasionally to his partner ... Rouhier. He never fails to mention all his appearances on other media platforms; his dog; his marriage; his diet, etc. Maybe I listen to the show too much.
