WTF does your HS Baseball days have to do with this?
Do you honestly think you, as a child not respecting someone or caring about your poor performance is similar to the Washington Nationals? The Roster of professional athletes?
Members of the clubhouse give a crap. Even if Dave isn't respected, they are still held accountable by themselves and teammates. Because they are professionals.
You have a classic fan attitude and your previous experience of being a bratty HS Baseball player isn't allowing you an insider viewpoints.
When guys step into the batters box, on the field, or on the mound, they aren't thinking I'd care if we had a better manager. They aren't thinking who gives a crap when they cause an error or strikeout.
That's the attitude of minimum wage workers who have history of being unreliable. Not you average professional athlete.
If you didn't care that you were letting your team down because you couldn't respect your coach, then mistakes were made raising you as a child. Hopefully you don't have that same attitude now in your adult professional life.
If you do then that's your issue. But the players in that clubhouse hold themselves to much higher standards than that.
Included in your post is:
"your previous experience of being a bratty HS Baseball player" and that my mother and father were poor parents.
Just another unsolicited attack by you. Go ahead and tell everyone that I am to blame for whatever happens going forward.
I never said that our team didn't care. We all tried as hard as we could or we believed we were giving it our all. Years after, we would talk and ask why we played so well for one coach and not the other. We all agreed that one coach held us accountable and the other didn't. If you played any kind of organized sports you would know that there are coaches that can motivate and get the best out of you and other coaches that aren't so good at it. MLB players are not above being able to be motivated. Among the "bratty HS Baseball players" that were on that team, 3 including myself went on to play in college and I went on to play 2 years of minor league ball, so my experience is quite a bit more than yours. I'm not saying you have to have played the game to know the game but there are some parts of the game that you can only know by playing. There are many good posters on here and I doubt that most have had a lot of experience nor do they need it to know what they are talking about.
Besides all of the posts where you attack someone you also have many endless posts that nobody can understand.
You can't seem to admit that Martinez is not doing a good job.
Chelsea Janes article said the relievers blamed Martinez for Kintzler and Madson being on the DL and that he caused Solis's performance to suffer enough that he ended up at AAA. She also said that everyone likes Martinez the person but question Martinez the manager. A manager is being blamed for injuring players and having players question his ability to manage and your response is that you didn't think the article was negative toward Martinez?
Gio averaged 112 pitches per game in 5 of the 6 games he pitched from 4/29 to 5/28 and had an ERA of 2.10 on May 28. Since then he has pitched in 8 games with an ERA of 6.51.
Roark averaged 110 pitches per game in 6 games from 4/24 to 5/26 and had a 3.17 ERA on May 26. Since then he has pitched in 10 games with a 7.11 ERA.
Should be easy to figure out what caused the problem. You see a stat and that's all you are able to see but some on here can see if you dig deeper into a stat it might tell a different story. A pitcher that throws 3200 pitches in 32 games and averages 100 pitches per game one year doesn't necessarily mean the same if he has thrown 1000 pitches after 10 games the next year. It's how he got there. A pitcher could theoretically throw 75 pitches in each of his first 5 games and 125 pitches in each of the next 5. That's the same 100 pitches per game average that he had the year before but an entirely different story if you look into it. Roark's and Gio's pitch counts obviously aren't quite that extreme but averaging 110 pitches per game for a month does take a toll and their numbers show that.
Like I said before, I'm willing to let it go but you can keep telling everyone what a great job Martinez is doing and you can keep telling us about your supernatural ability to know what players are thinking if you want?
After many bad posts this is probably a new low for you.
Sorry to everyone for the length of this post, I know how annoying long posts can be.