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Offline Elvir Ovcina

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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #75: December 16, 2019, 03:12:14 PM »
I'm sure we will build "depth" with some cheap bounceback/dart throw signings, but Suero is going to start the season in the big league bullpen.  He'll have to pitch poorly for a month or so to get sent down.  He showed enough promise last year.

Fortunately, Spring Training will provide that month (just kidding, of course).  But never mind, I was wrong anyway - I didn't realize Guerra was on a MiLB deal and had forgotten the 26th spot.  Guess I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue...

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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #76: December 16, 2019, 05:26:10 PM »
Not sure why we're even bothering to talk about this. Rizzo and Martinez will try all the fodder to see if something sticks. When it doesnt, he'll just make a trade at the deadline.

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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #77: December 16, 2019, 07:28:39 PM »
Not sure why we're even bothering to talk about this. Rizzo and Martinez will try all the fodder to see if something sticks. When it doesnt, he'll just make a trade at the deadline.

Yep. And that pen will implode and lose about 20 games again.

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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #78: December 16, 2019, 07:33:59 PM »
Yep. And that pen will implode and lose about 20 games again.
And we'll win another world series

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« Reply #79: December 16, 2019, 09:03:15 PM »
And we'll win another world series

I thought you were ready to call it a season because we lost Rendon?

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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #80: December 16, 2019, 09:38:44 PM »
I thought you were ready to call it a season because we lost Rendon?
We all thought you were gonna be a good poster now. Huh.

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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #81: December 16, 2019, 10:20:08 PM »
Slateman is always looking for an excuse to call it a season

I thought you were ready to call it a season because we lost Rendon?

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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #82: December 16, 2019, 10:35:55 PM »
We all thought you were gonna be a good poster now. Huh.

We? I don't think there is one person in here that would agree with anything you say.

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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #83: December 17, 2019, 12:47:47 AM »
Voth is the best of the bunch.   He reminds me of Mussina a little.   

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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #84: December 17, 2019, 08:13:16 AM »
Voth is the best of the bunch.   He reminds me of Mussina a little.

I've been puzzling over this one.  Let's see.  Voth has ears.  Mussina has ears.  Voth throws a fastball.  Mussina throws a fastball.  Voth went to a Pac-12 school.  Mussina went to a Pac-12 school.  Voth still has ears.  Mussina, also still ears. 

Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #85: December 23, 2019, 11:15:07 PM »
I've been puzzling over this one.  Let's see.  Voth has ears.  Mussina has ears.  Voth throws a fastball.  Mussina throws a fastball.  Voth went to a Pac-12 school.  Mussina went to a Pac-12 school.  Voth still has ears.  Mussina, also still ears.
Sadly the comparison ends there. Mussina is in the HOF while Voth is a.... lol. It’s hard to put them in the same sentence without insulting the other :mg:

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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #86: January 02, 2020, 11:23:56 PM »
Stephen Strasburg
Max Scherzer
Patrick Corbin
Anibal Sanchez
Joe Ross

Sean Doolittle
Will Harris
Tanner Rainey
Wander Suero
Hunter Strickland
Roenis Elías
Javy Guerra
Fernando Abad
Kyle Finnegan
Austen Williams
Erick Fedde
Austin Voth

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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #87: January 03, 2020, 09:01:07 AM »
Stephen Strasburg
Max Scherzer
Patrick Corbin
Anibal Sanchez
Joe Ross

Sean Doolittle*
Will Harris
Tanner Rainey (o)
Wander Suero
Hunter Strickland
Roenis Elías*
Javy Guerra (m)
Fernando Abad* (m)
Kyle Finnegan
Austen Williams

Erick Fedde (o)
Austin Voth


* = lefty, (m) = minor league contract.  I should add "o" for options.  I think Fedde has one, and also Rainey.

I think one of the reds is a lock, so that is 5 locks.  That leaves 2-3 more slots out of the blues or people we bring in, ideally with one or two having options.

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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #88: January 03, 2020, 11:14:01 AM »
* = lefty, (m) = minor league contract.  I should add "o" for options.  I think Fedde has one, and also Rainey.

I think one of the reds is a lock, so that is 5 locks.  That leaves 2-3 more slots out of the blues or people we bring in, ideally with one or two having options.

Fedde used all 3 options before completing his fifth pro season, so he is that rare dude who gets a fourth option year.  He'd otherwise be out.  Voth is out.  Rainey has one left - used one in 2018 with the Reds and one last year.

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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #89: January 03, 2020, 11:30:38 AM »
Fedde used all 3 options before completing his fifth pro season, so he is that rare dude who gets a fourth option year.  He'd otherwise be out.  Voth is out.  Rainey has one left - used one in 2018 with the Reds and one last year.
so, if all 3 are healthy and pitching OK, Fedde gets option and Voth and Ross get kept.  I assume Finnegan has options, too?


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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #90: January 03, 2020, 11:41:19 AM »
so, if all 3 are healthy and pitching OK, Fedde gets option and Voth and Ross get kept.  I assume Finnegan has options, too?

the speculation is that Ross gets the 5th starter slot, Voth goes to the pen as a long reliever / spot starter, and Fedde is in reserve as an injury call-up.

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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #91: January 03, 2020, 12:29:31 PM »
so, if all 3 are healthy and pitching OK, Fedde gets option and Voth and Ross get kept.  I assume Finnegan has options, too?

I think he has all of his.  I don't think he was ever on the A's 40-man. 

I can't imagine they would have signed him to a major league contract if he didn't have options.  You'd just offer him a high-salaried MiLB deal so you didn't risk losing him if you wanted to have him start the season in AAA.

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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #92: January 04, 2020, 01:22:46 AM »
Sean Doolittle
Will Harris
Tanner Rainey
Wander Suero
Hunter Strickland
David Hernandez
Roenis Elías or Fernando Abad

Javy Guerra
Kyle Finnegan
Austen Williams
Erick Fedde
Austin Voth



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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #93: January 06, 2020, 01:07:40 PM »
I think he has all of his.  I don't think he was ever on the A's 40-man. 

I can't imagine they would have signed him to a major league contract if he didn't have options.  You'd just offer him a high-salaried MiLB deal so you didn't risk losing him if you wanted to have him start the season in AAA.
Yes, Finnegan has all three of his options left.

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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #94: January 06, 2020, 03:09:45 PM »
anyone know what's going on with Seth Romero?  He had TJ in August of 2018.

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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #95: January 06, 2020, 03:24:41 PM »
Instagram just told me that Hudson is coming back on a 2 year deal. Is this legit?

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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #96: January 06, 2020, 03:25:35 PM »
Instagram just told me that Hudson is coming back on a 2 year deal. Is this legit?

yep, breaking everywhere.

We are actually going into a season with a good bullpen.

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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #97: January 06, 2020, 03:25:49 PM »
Instagram just told me that Hudson is coming back on a 2 year deal. Is this legit?

Yes. Jeff Passan reporting. No details yet.

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Re: Bull Pen Construction for 2020
« Reply #98: January 06, 2020, 03:34:02 PM »
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Daniel Hudson's deal with the Washington Nationals is for two years and $11 million, sources tell ESPN. He can earn another $1 million in performance bonuses related to games finished.

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« Reply #99: January 06, 2020, 03:54:06 PM »
Sweet!! I like it.