Author Topic: What was greater: Werth's walkoff or last night? (Read 1571 times)

Traded For Mclain · « **Reply #50:** October 04, 2019, 10:23:20 AM »

Quote from: Natsinpwc on October 04, 2019, 04:00:26 AM

Worth’s hit was clearly more important. It out then a game away from the NLCS. With Soto’s hit they are still three games away.

That’s a good point, almost makes me want to change my vote. I still look at it as Soto’s hit advanced us a round, Werth’s hit meant losing in five instead of four. It really may be that after seven years I’m still working through the pain of game 5 with my therapist....

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #51:** October 04, 2019, 11:16:27 AM »

Werth's was probably more significant in terms of the potential for winning the World Series because it meant we only needed to win 9 more games instead of 11. Soto's was much more of a "monkey off the back" moment. I think in terms of added likelihood of winning the game, I think Soto's probably added more win probability Werth went from a little above 50% to 100%, while Soto's went from about 25% to about 90+%, IIRC the graphs Bluestreak posted.

Ali the Baseball Cat · « **Reply #52:** October 04, 2019, 11:42:37 AM »

Measured by the volume of beer thrown in the air, Soto all the way.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #53:** October 04, 2019, 02:12:29 PM »

Quote from: Ali the Baseball Cat on October 04, 2019, 11:42:37 AM

Measured by the volume of beer thrown in the air, Soto all the way.

well, that's because they stopped selling 12 Ozs. Those 24 Oz beers are much more efficient at soaking folks.

Duke of Earl · « **Reply #54:** October 04, 2019, 02:27:03 PM »

Quote from: Natsinpwc on October 04, 2019, 04:00:26 AM

Worth’s hit was clearly more important. It out then a game away from the NLCS. With Soto’s hit they are still three games away.

And without it, they are 165 (or 6) games away.

varoadking · « **Reply #55:** October 04, 2019, 02:56:46 PM »

This still baffles me...if Grisham doesn't make that error...that three run single isn't, and it isn't even being discussed today...

mitlen · « **Reply #56:** October 04, 2019, 03:00:34 PM »

Quote from: varoadking on October 04, 2019, 02:56:46 PM

This still baffles me...if Grisham doesn't make that error...that three run single isn't, and it isn't even being discussed today...

I'm still baffled by Soto's base running on the play. I thought he could have made third (on replay). I didn't get much from Charlie and Dave on the original over all play call.

varoadking · « **Reply #57:** October 04, 2019, 03:03:54 PM »

Quote from: mitlen on October 04, 2019, 03:00:34 PM

I'm still baffled by Soto's base running on the play. I thought he could have made third (on replay). I didn't get much from Charlie and Dave on the original over all play call.

He said he wanted to draw the throw so Rendon could score. He did, and he did...but not sure that was really going thru his mind.

spidernat · « **Reply #58:** October 04, 2019, 03:30:28 PM »

Quote from: varoadking on October 04, 2019, 03:03:54 PM

He said he wanted to draw the throw so Rendon could score. He did, and he did...but not sure that was really going thru his mind.

that's what he says now but at the time he was directing traffic in the basepaths and celebrating. even doing all that, the play would've been close at 3B (I thnk he's safe because the cutoff man wasn't even expecting there to be a play at 3B) so Rendon doesn't need a distraction to score

bluestreak · « **Reply #59:** October 04, 2019, 03:35:22 PM »

Quote from: varoadking on October 04, 2019, 02:56:46 PM

This still baffles me...if Grisham doesn't make that error...that three run single isn't, and it isn't even being discussed today...

And if Werth’s homer had died at the warning track, we wouldn’t be talking about that. Why are we discussing counter factuals. He put the ball in play we won a game that we had a high probability of losing.

spidernat · « **Reply #60:** October 04, 2019, 03:38:50 PM »

bs objecting to someone because their opinion doesn't match his....

varoadking · « **Reply #61:** October 04, 2019, 03:44:25 PM »

Quote from: bluestreak on October 04, 2019, 03:35:22 PM

And if Werth’s homer had died at the warning track, we wouldn’t be talking about that. Why are we discussing counter factuals. He put the ball in play we won a game that we had a high probability of losing.

But Werth's ball did carry and Grisham did make an error. Those are facts...

Baseball is Life · « **Reply #62:** October 04, 2019, 03:50:49 PM »

I should have asked "What was the bigger playoff moment?" so some folks would not be answering "What was the bigger achievement?"

bluestreak · « **Reply #63:** October 04, 2019, 04:05:45 PM »

Quote from: spidernat on October 04, 2019, 03:38:50 PM

bs objecting to someone because their opinion doesn't match his....

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The guy said it baffled him why people thought the other way. I explained how people could. He has his opinion, I have mine. Hell, you could say the same thing about him.

But you won’t, because for some reason you like to stir crap with me. I guess I should consider it a compliment. I’m glad I can play some part in your happiness.

Baseball is Life · « **Reply #64:** October 04, 2019, 04:27:31 PM »

Quote from: bluestreak on October 04, 2019, 04:05:45 PM

I’m glad I can play some part in your happiness.

varoadking · « **Reply #65:** October 10, 2019, 01:08:24 AM »

Howie...

dracnal · « **Reply #66:** October 10, 2019, 01:14:49 AM »

Quote from: varoadking on October 10, 2019, 01:08:24 AM

Howie...

Yeah - we've got a new, and clear, winner.

varoadking · « **Reply #67:** October 10, 2019, 01:18:50 AM »

FP reading WNFF again...

imref · « **Reply #68:** October 10, 2019, 01:19:14 AM »

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imref · « **Reply #69:** October 10, 2019, 01:29:19 AM »

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