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Re: Follow the Prospects: Yasel Antuna, OF
« Reply #125: April 18, 2022, 10:22:39 AM »
Good start this season at High-A: .308 / .457 / .803

Now playing LF.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Yasel Antuna, OF
« Reply #126: April 18, 2022, 10:28:16 AM »
Good start this season at High-A: .308 / .457 / .803

Now playing LF.
But he still needs to learn per some folks here. So patience.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Yasel Antuna, OF
« Reply #127: April 18, 2022, 10:29:45 AM »
If Antuna cannot crush at Wilmington, then he's no value.  It's not the hitting that he's there for. It's the fielding.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Yasel Antuna, OF
« Reply #128: April 18, 2022, 10:37:31 AM »
But he still needs to learn per some folks here. So patience.
Sorry this was meant to be in the Garcia thread.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Yasel Antuna, OF
« Reply #129: April 18, 2022, 12:14:44 PM »
If Antuna cannot crush at Wilmington, then he's no value.  It's not the hitting that he's there for. It's the fielding.

If he's hitting A+, no reason for him to be there.  Learning to play corner OF isn't any different in AA than it is in A+.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Yasel Antuna, OF
« Reply #130: April 18, 2022, 12:44:45 PM »
He missed like 2 seasons of development, and only started to hit High A towards the end of last season. It doesnt hurt to let him stay in Single A for half a season. He's only 22.

Man, y'all just want to rush everyone through the minors

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Yasel Antuna, OF
« Reply #131: April 18, 2022, 12:51:36 PM »
He missed like 2 seasons of development, and only started to hit High A towards the end of last season. It doesnt hurt to let him stay in Single A for half a season. He's only 22.

Man, y'all just want to rush everyone through the minors

I'm not big on rushing dudes.  Antuna's issue is that he's already burning his second option year this year.  He might be the only 40-man player still in A ball in the entire league, and it's his second year eating options.  This is the rare situation where it's probably prudent to push a dude. 

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Yasel Antuna, OF
« Reply #132: April 18, 2022, 01:18:11 PM »
Provided he’s not terrible, he’ll probably finish the year in AA

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Yasel Antuna, OF
« Reply #133: April 18, 2022, 04:34:34 PM »
I'm not big on rushing dudes.  Antuna's issue is that he's already burning his second option year this year.  He might be the only 40-man player still in A ball in the entire league, and it's his second year eating options.  This is the rare situation where it's probably prudent to push a dude. 
Honestly, who cares? Is there someone else that needs that roster spot? If he's magically in Double A next week does that make it suddenly worth a 40 man roster spot? Hes there because he lost two years, one to injury and another to the pandemic.

Honestly, he isnt even slugging .400. I dont think he's ready for Double A. He can stay down there all season. He isnt blocking anyone and we have nothing to lose.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Yasel Antuna, OF
« Reply #134: April 18, 2022, 04:44:55 PM »
Honestly, who cares? Is there someone else that needs that roster spot? If he's magically in Double A next week does that make it suddenly worth a 40 man roster spot? Hes there because he lost two years, one to injury and another to the pandemic.

Honestly, he isnt even slugging .400. I dont think he's ready for Double A. He can stay down there all season. He isnt blocking anyone and we have nothing to lose.

The problem isn't this year.  It's that next year is his final option year.  If you don't give him a shot to get to MLB by the end of '23, he'll go into Spring Training in 2024 having to be kept on the MLB roster or go through waivers.  Best way to get him there is to get him to AA pretty soon so he can get decent time there and AAA.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Yasel Antuna, OF
« Reply #135: April 18, 2022, 06:13:36 PM »
The problem isn't this year.  It's that next year is his final option year.  If you don't give him a shot to get to MLB by the end of '23, he'll go into Spring Training in 2024 having to be kept on the MLB roster or go through waivers.  Best way to get him there is to get him to AA pretty soon so he can get decent time there and AAA.
Then it sounds like he has two more seasons. Still not sure what the big deal is.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Yasel Antuna, OF
« Reply #136: April 18, 2022, 09:12:16 PM »
Honestly, who cares? Is there someone else that needs that roster spot? If he's magically in Double A next week does that make it suddenly worth a 40 man roster spot? Hes there because he lost two years, one to injury and another to the pandemic.

Honestly, he isnt even slugging .400. I dont think he's ready for Double A. He can stay down there all season. He isnt blocking anyone and we have nothing to lose.
This is where I'm at. It isn't like there's a player I wish was on the 40 man in his place.

I think the original sin was panicking and adding Antuna to the 40 man. Was he really at risk of being stolen in the Rule 5 draft? I get protecting Adon. Some bad team could have use him as a swing arm between the rotation and pen. But I don't think anyone could have held Antuna on the active roster all season.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Yasel Antuna, OF
« Reply #137: April 18, 2022, 09:20:23 PM »
This is where I'm at. It isn't like there's a player I wish was on the 40 man in his place.

I think the original sin was panicking and adding Antuna to the 40 man. Was he really at risk of being stolen in the Rule 5 draft? I get protecting Adon. Some bad team could have use him as a swing arm between the rotation and pen. But I don't think anyone could have held Antuna on the active roster all season.

He woulda been gone quick as crap. 21st ranked international prospect. Cost the Nats 3.9 million. Was the Nationals number 10 prospect when he was added.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Yasel Antuna, OF
« Reply #138: April 19, 2022, 07:08:22 AM »
This is where I'm at. It isn't like there's a player I wish was on the 40 man in his place.

I think the original sin was panicking and adding Antuna to the 40 man. Was he really at risk of being stolen in the Rule 5 draft? I get protecting Adon. Some bad team could have use him as a swing arm between the rotation and pen. But I don't think anyone could have held Antuna on the active roster all season.

Antuna might not have been picked in the major league phase, but he'd have been a dead certainty to go in the minor league phase. 

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Yasel Antuna, OF
« Reply #139: April 19, 2022, 12:32:24 PM »
Antuna might not have been picked in the major league phase, but he'd have been a dead certainty to go in the minor league phase.
I guess I never really understood the minor league rule five. Have they gotten rid of that with the new CBA?

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Yasel Antuna, OF
« Reply #140: April 19, 2022, 01:11:59 PM »
I guess I never really understood the minor league rule five. Have they gotten rid of that with the new CBA?

Not that I'm aware.  Minor League Rule 5 eligibility is the same as MLB except that anyone in AAA is also protected (even if not on the 40-man), which covers most of the fringe types even if not protected from the major league portion.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Yasel Antuna, OF
« Reply #141: April 19, 2022, 01:26:35 PM »
Not that I'm aware.  Minor League Rule 5 eligibility is the same as MLB except that anyone in AAA is also protected (even if not on the 40-man), which covers most of the fringe types even if not protected from the major league portion.
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Re: Follow the Prospects: Yasel Antuna, OF
« Reply #142: May 11, 2022, 10:53:17 AM »
Down to .218 with no power, although a pile of walks.  .706 OPS.  Not so good for a corner OF in high-A.