Author Topic: 2019 Bullpen (Read 59248 times)

Slateman · « **Reply #1400:** September 21, 2019, 09:58:50 PM »

Quote from: Expos on September 21, 2019, 09:53:54 PM

How did those bullpens fare in the playoffs?

By that definition, there is only one good bullpen every year

Air Desmond · « **Reply #1401:** September 22, 2019, 12:11:07 AM »

I know the bullpen is a dumpster fire, but Davey continues to pour gasoline on it. Rodney should’ve been removed long before he gave up the bases clearing double.

GataNats · « **Reply #1402:** September 22, 2019, 04:15:16 AM »

No reason to continue to pitch Rodney. Guy is a 43 year old fat body.

djbaseball13 · « **Reply #1403:** September 22, 2019, 08:17:39 AM »

Quote from: Air Desmond on September 22, 2019, 12:11:07 AM

I know the bullpen is a dumpster fire, but Davey continues to pour gasoline on it. Rodney should’ve been removed long before he gave up the bases clearing double.

Hopefully he will leave Voth in there as long as possible. No pinch hitting in the 6th... If he's pitching well then he needs to stay in there. Voth is young, and has not been overworked this year. We need 110 pitches (if he's getting outs). The 75 pitch count is not going to work with this bullpen.

Slateman · « **Reply #1404:** September 22, 2019, 09:26:55 AM »

Quote from: djbaseball13 on September 22, 2019, 08:17:39 AM

Hopefully he will leave Voth in there as long as possible. No pinch hitting in the 6th... If he's pitching well then he needs to stay in there. Voth is young, and has not been overworked this year. We need 110 pitches (if he's getting outs). The 75 pitch count is not going to work with this bullpen.

Right. Gotta burn out the young guy's arm. The Dusty Way.

trangert418 · « **Reply #1405:** September 22, 2019, 10:06:16 AM »

Quote from: Slateman on September 22, 2019, 09:26:55 AM

Right. Gotta burn out the young guy's arm. The Dusty Way.

Not sure what the definition of "young" is for a pitcher but Voth is 27. Seems like he is considered one of those twice through the order guys. The last time he was pulled at 80 pitches I looked up his stats and his 3rd time through the order numbers are not great. His 3rd time through the order consists of a whopping 4 innings. Give the guy a chance....

djbaseball13 · « **Reply #1406:** September 22, 2019, 10:19:17 AM »

Quote from: Slateman on September 22, 2019, 09:26:55 AM

Right. Gotta burn out the young guy's arm. The Dusty Way.

or, we can shut him down in Sept. and not pitch him in the playoffs (ask Stras about that) I'm sure Voth won't mind sitting out this year; he will have many more chances

Slateman · « **Reply #1407:** September 22, 2019, 11:27:38 AM »

Quote from: djbaseball13 on September 22, 2019, 10:19:17 AM

or, we can shut him down in Sept. and not pitch him in the playoffs (ask Stras about that) I'm sure Voth won't mind sitting out this year; he will have many more chances

Voth doesnt have to worry about pitching in the playoffs this year

djbaseball13 · « **Reply #1408:** September 22, 2019, 11:58:19 AM »

Quote from: Slateman on September 22, 2019, 11:27:38 AM

Voth doesnt have to worry about pitching in the playoffs this year

We could use him in the bullpen!

Slateman · « **Reply #1409:** September 22, 2019, 12:31:04 PM »

Quote from: djbaseball13 on September 22, 2019, 11:58:19 AM

We could use him in the bullpen!

Quote from: Slateman on September 22, 2019, 11:27:38 AM

Voth doesnt have to worry about pitching in the playoffs this year

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #1410:** September 22, 2019, 05:14:51 PM »

Weird thought of the day: do you put Corbin in the pen for the WC and NLDS and go Scherzer, Sanchez, and Stras as your starters?

varoadking · « **Reply #1411:** September 22, 2019, 05:39:14 PM »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on September 22, 2019, 05:14:51 PM

Weird thought of the day: do you put Corbin in the pen for the WC and NLDS and go Scherzer, Sanchez, and Stras as your starters?

Stras and Corbin are 1 and 1A right now. Scherzer should not pitch either of the first 2 games...if it get's that far...

But, he will...Standard Decision...so yes, Corbin in the pen makes sense...

Slateman · « **Reply #1412:** September 22, 2019, 05:52:57 PM »

Quote from: varoadking on September 22, 2019, 05:39:14 PM

Stras and Corbin are 1 and 1A right now. Scherzer should not pitch either of the first 2 games...if it get's that far...

But, he will...Standard Decision...so yes, Corbin in the pen makes sense...

You're not starting Stras in 1/2 days of rest.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #1413:** September 22, 2019, 06:44:37 PM »

I played a bit with what I think is the probable rotation, and giving Corbin a Game 1 start would let him slide into the bullpen for games 3-5. widl card pitcher starts game 3. Game 5 is normal rest for Game 2 starter, which leaves game 4 for the 4th starter (or Corbin on short rest).

aspenbubba · « **Reply #1414:** September 22, 2019, 08:00:50 PM »

28 blown saves by our esteemed BP with Doolittle leading the way.

djbaseball13 · « **Reply #1415:** September 22, 2019, 08:41:38 PM »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on September 22, 2019, 06:44:37 PM

I played a bit with what I think is the probable rotation, and giving Corbin a Game 1 start would let him slide into the bullpen for games 3-5. widl card pitcher starts game 3. Game 5 is normal rest for Game 2 starter, which leaves game 4 for the 4th starter (or Corbin on short rest).

A lot of guys aren't as effective coming in relief. I'd rather see Voth in the 'pen and come in early (if he has to) and Rainey, Hudson, Strickland, Doolittle as our late guys. If we keep a 4 man starting rotation then we can let our starters go deep because they will have normal rest. All 4 guys (Corbin, Stras, Max, Sanchez) are capable of pitching a shutout! Isn't it time to throw "conventional wisdom" out the door? Our best pitchers are those 4 starters!