Roster Moves (2019)

[Slateman]

AAA until he refines his craft...he's nowhere near being ready for the Bigs...

Then who the freak is starting at third or second base next year?

[varoadking]

Then who the freak is starting at third or second base next year?

A player to be named later...

[imref]

Then who the freak is starting at third or second base next year?

Difo?

[aspenbubba]

Then who the freak is starting at third or second base next year?

What are you going to say if Rendon does re-sign here? If we don't want Dozier or Cabrerra back I'm sure Rizzo can find somebody. Kieboom showed me nothing to warrant sitting on the bench for the remainder of the season. He knows what the show is all about and he can work on his defense and play winter ball somewhere.

[Slateman]

Difo?

What are you going to say if Rendon does re-sign here? If we don't want Dozier or Cabrerra back I'm sure Rizzo can find somebody. Kieboom showed me nothing to warrant sitting on the bench for the remainder of the season. He knows what the show is all about and he can work on his defense and play winter ball somewhere.

Even more funny. Dude has hit at every level except his cup of coffee this year.

[Duke of Earl]

He can just watch and learn from the coaches and vets and experience everything first hand. Let the kid soak it up, especially during a playoff push. Give him some of that winning experience. I

Is there any evidence that that really works?

[imref]

Tres Barrera called up. Spencer Kieboom to the 60 day with an elbow injury.

[imref]

James Bourque, Carter Kieboom, and Austen Williams report today to West Palm Beach to work out in case they are needed.  They are all on the 40 man roster.

[Slateman]

No reason to not have Bourque and Williams with the big league club, in the pen.

[aspenbubba]

I'm guessing that Holland did not show them much or he would have been called up.

[UMDNats]

No reason to not have Bourque and Williams with the big league club, in the pen.

JFC this organization is either insanely cheap, stubborn to a fault or so arrogant that they think they are smarter than literally every other team in baseball who calls up any healthy arm on the 40-man.

[Slateman]

JFC this organization is either insanely cheap, stubborn to a fault or so arrogant that they think they are smarter than literally every other team in baseball who calls up any healthy arm on the 40-man.

I really don't get it. Your playoff bullpen is still hot garbage. You need to take all the of the shots you can to find someone.

[Elvir Ovcina]

I'm guessing that Holland did not show them much or he would have been called up.

Holland had an ERA under 1 in AA, so it's hard to see them not giving him some sort of a chance.  The problem here is that Holland wasn't on the 40-man prior to September 1, so the only way he can become playoff-eligible is if a playoff-eligible pitcher gets hurt.  They'd also need a space on the 40-man, so someone would need to be DFAed or moved to the 60-day.   So unless someone legit gets hurt badly enough for that or they can fake an injury that would work, it's tough.

I do wonder if Ross being scratched over the weekend was Step 1 of this plan - he's playoff eligible, a pitcher, and not good enough to merit a spot on the playoff roster.   Guerra might be another candidate for the same treatment.

[Slateman]

Holland had an ERA under 1 in AA, so it's hard to see them not giving him some sort of a chance.  The problem here is that Holland wasn't on the 40-man prior to September 1, so the only way he can become playoff-eligible is if a playoff-eligible pitcher gets hurt.  They'd also need a space on the 40-man, so someone would need to be DFAed or moved to the 60-day.   So unless someone legit gets hurt badly enough for that or they can fake an injury that would work, it's tough.

I do wonder if Ross being scratched yesterday was Step 1 of this plan - he's playoff eligible, a pitcher, and not good enough to merit a spot on the playoff roster.   Guerra might be another candidate for the same treatment.

Elias is hurt.

[Elvir Ovcina]

Elias is hurt.

Yeah, but he'd still need to be out at the end of the season for Holland to be eligible, and they would still need a 40-man slot (unless they 60 him, which ends his season).  They'd probably prefer to have him to Holland.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Holland had an ERA under 1 in AA, so it's hard to see them not giving him some sort of a chance.  The problem here is that Holland wasn't on the 40-man prior to September 1, so the only way he can become playoff-eligible is if a playoff-eligible pitcher gets hurt.  They'd also need a space on the 40-man, so someone would need to be DFAed or moved to the 60-day.   So unless someone legit gets hurt badly enough for that or they can fake an injury that would work, it's tough.

I do wonder if Ross being scratched over the weekend was Step 1 of this plan - he's playoff eligible, a pitcher, and not good enough to merit a spot on the playoff roster.   Guerra might be another candidate for the same treatment.

I still think the rule is that a player just needs to be in the organization prior to 9/1 and not on the 40 man if he's an injury replacement.   That's what the MLB wiki on rosters says.  Albert Mondesi 2015 was the first player the provision was used on.

[imref]

haven't heard a word about Holland since Harrisburg finished their season.

[Elvir Ovcina]

I still think the rule is that a player just needs to be in the organization prior to 9/1 and not on the 40 man if he's an injury replacement.   That's what the MLB wiki on rosters says.  Albert Mondesi 2015 was the first player the provision was used on.

That's right, but I'm not seeing them throwing him in the playoffs if he's not pitched in a month beforehand.  Which is why I can't see it happening unless he's added to the 40-man before October.  And it's not clear that MLB would let them use him as an "injury replacement" for a guy who was already hurt when he entered the system - the provision is discretionary and requires a petition to MLB.  Mondesi replaced Terrance Gore, who got hurt during the playoffs that year. 

[sixthree175]

Holland had an ERA under 1 in AA, so it's hard to see them not giving him some sort of a chance.  The problem here is that Holland wasn't on the 40-man prior to September 1, so the only way he can become playoff-eligible is if a playoff-eligible pitcher gets hurt.  They'd also need a space on the 40-man, so someone would need to be DFAed or moved to the 60-day.   So unless someone legit gets hurt badly enough for that or they can fake an injury that would work, it's tough.

I do wonder if Ross being scratched over the weekend was Step 1 of this plan - he's playoff eligible, a pitcher, and not good enough to merit a spot on the playoff roster.   Guerra might be another candidate for the same treatment.

I can't imagine Ross being on the playoff roster.  Same for Guerra.  Same for Suero.  Same for Rainey.  Same for Elias.  Same for Rodney. 

[Slateman]

I can't imagine Ross being on the playoff roster.  Same for Guerra.  Same for Suero.  Same for Rainey.  Same for Elias.  Same for Rodney. 

Lol, Suero, Rodney, and Rainey are gonna be on there

[bluestreak]

I can't imagine Ross being on the playoff roster.  Same for Guerra.  Same for Suero.  Same for Rainey.  Same for Elias.  Same for Rodney.

Are there some relievers on the 40 man I haven’t heard of?

[Slateman]

Are there some relievers on the 40 man I haven’t heard of?

Legit, how many innings could Scherzer, Strasburg, Corbin and Sanchez pitch and still pitch the next day?

[sixthree175]

Legit, how many innings could Scherzer, Strasburg, Corbin and Sanchez pitch and still pitch the next day?

Not the next day, but maybe the day after.  And maybe Fedde and Voth should be turned loose.

What will be the comfort level when Rainey or Rodney is brought into a one-run game in the sixth or seventh inning? 

[Slateman]

Not the next day, but maybe the day after.  And maybe Fedde and Voth should be turned loose.

What will be the comfort level when Rainey or Rodney is brought into a one-run game in the sixth or seventh inning? 

I'm more comfortable with them than with Voth or Fedde

[varoadking]

I'm more comfortable with them than with Voth or Fedde

Hellickson gonna come up big...