NFL 2019

[skippy1999]

Ooohhh I wanted Sweat!

[Smithian]

When you're patient and have a little bit of luck, that is what can happen.

Good first round.

[imref]

https://deadspin.com/dwayne-haskins-doomed-for-up-to-four-years-as-a-washing-1834317352

[Slateman]

Trading up would've been foolish.

Yes. But this is Dan Snyder we're talking about

[imref]

Giants will spend about $20 million more on Jones than they would have spent to acquire Rosen

https://www.nj.com/giants/2019/04/giants-could-have-saved-20m-by-trading-for-cardinals-josh-rosen-instead-of-drafting-daniel-jones-salary-cap-contract-comparison.html

[Slateman]

Giants will spend about $20 million more on Jones than they would have spent to acquire Rosen

https://www.nj.com/giants/2019/04/giants-could-have-saved-20m-by-trading-for-cardinals-josh-rosen-instead-of-drafting-daniel-jones-salary-cap-contract-comparison.html

What an odd thing to bring up. It's a rookie deal. Who gives a crap? Also, Jones actually has upside where as Rosen looks like a bust.

[Natsinpwc]

What an odd thing to bring up. It's a rookie deal. Who gives a crap? Also, Jones actually has upside where as Rosen looks like a bust.

They could have taken Jones with their later pick in the first round. Or even second round. No one else had the guy as a first rounder. 

[JCA-CrystalCity]

They could have taken Jones with their later pick in the first round. Or even second round. No one else had the guy as a first rounder. 

the question is, if both Jones and Haskins had been available at 15, would Washington have taken Jones?  Apparently, the Giants had a clear preference for Jones so did not want the risk of waiting until #17.  They took a Clemson DL at #17 that's pretty good, if I remember from not paying attention this AM.

[Slateman]

They could have taken Jones with their later pick in the first round. Or even second round. No one else had the guy as a first rounder. 

Did anyone have Haskins going 15?

[Natsinpwc]

Did anyone have Haskins going 15?

That was basically what I read the last couple days. That the Redskins didn’t need to trade up since he was dropping. Not a good year to draft a QB. I don’t think Murray is going to be very good either. Everyone knows the Giants goofed. You’re just being Slate.

[Natsinpwc]

the question is, if both Jones and Haskins had been available at 15, would Washington have taken Jones?  Apparently, the Giants had a clear preference for Jones so did not want the risk of waiting until #17.  They took a Clemson DL at #17 that's pretty good, if I remember from not paying attention this AM.

I’m just saying no one else had Jones rated as a first rounder. Unlike most big guys not a big arm. They apparently were influenced by the Mannings who think the kid is great because he played for the same guy they did.

[imref]

What an odd thing to bring up. It's a rookie deal. Who gives a crap? Also, Jones actually has upside where as Rosen looks like a bust.

From what I read, Rosen grades higher.   Judging a QB by his first year performance in the league is idiotic though I'm sure plenty of folks were ready to declare Peyton Manning a bust and blow up the Colts after his rookie campaign in which he set the league interception record while completing just 56% of his passes.

They could have taken Jones with their later pick in the first round. Or even second round. No one else had the guy as a first rounder. 

Maybe not 2nd round, but certainly after Haskins.  I listened to the Giants GM on the radio this morning, he said he fell in love with Jones after seeing him in the senior bowl (where he was MVP).  I don't think the Redskins would have picked him over Haskins.

[Natsinpwc]

From what I read, Rosen grades higher.   Judging a QB by his first year performance in the league is idiotic though I'm sure plenty of folks were ready to declare Peyton Manning a bust and blow up the Colts after his rookie campaign in which he set the league interception record while completing just 56% of his passes.

Maybe not 2nd round, but certainly after Haskins.  I listened to the Giants GM on the radio this morning, he said he fell in love with Jones after seeing him in the senior bowl (where he was MVP).  I don't think the Redskins would have picked him over Haskins.

Luckily Jones will have OBJ to throw to. Oh wait....

[spidernat]

Trading up would've been foolish.  I wish him success and hope he pans out better than the other QBs drafted under the Snyder regime.  Not going to hold my breath though.

I hope he proves me wrong but this has RGIII disaster written all over it because of his personal relationship with Snyder.

[HalfSmokes]

I hope he proves me wrong but this has RGIII disaster written all over it because of his personal relationship with Snyder.

Yep, as a prospect and a person, he seems great. The fact that he’s already a Snyder family friend raises enormous red flags. This will be another guy getting the owner to overrule the coach

[spidernat]

The only hope is that he somehow becomes a good player (and I don't see it so I hope I'm wrong) because no coach will be able to bench him due to his ties to Snyder. This has the potential of being worse than the RGIII fiasco.

[imref]

Rosen expected to go to Miami.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Rosen expected to go to Miami.

for a 2 this year and a 5 next?  That was light.  Surprised BB didn't come up with a 2 and a 3, but he must have really wanted to big corner he picked up at #45 when the Pats moved up.  He should get a QB in the 4th with the Redskins pick, unless there's a TE or DL he really wants.  3 picks in the 4th gives him a good chance to get a QB to develop.  HE has the luxury of either taking a guy who is smart but needs to bulk up and develop a better arm (like Brady) or get a toolsy guy who is willing to put in the time to learn.

[mitlen]

Just heard on 106.7 that Odell Beckham may come out in a new conference on Monday (IIRC).    If it's not true, the "Rooster" may be lookin' for employment.

[bluestreak]

Eagles sign extension for Wentz. Total 6 years $154.7 million.

[DCFan]

https://nypost.com/2019/07/04/dolphins-kendrick-norton-has-arm-amputated-after-serious-car-crash/

[Slateman]

https://nypost.com/2019/07/04/dolphins-kendrick-norton-has-arm-amputated-after-serious-car-crash/

Wow, had to do it on site. That's pretty freaking gnarly

[imref]

Teddy Bruschi hospitalized after suffering a stroke. He’s 46. 

[skippy1999]

Teddy Bruschi hospitalized after suffering a stroke. He’s 46. 

What does his age have to do with it? Younger people have strokes, it happens. Luckily since Teddy recognized the signs right away (since he had a stroke in 2005) he got right to the hospital and that should greatly increase his chances of a full recovery

[spidernat]

time to dust off the NFL threads