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Offline bluestreak

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Hall of Fame 2019
« Topic Start: January 22, 2019, 06:25:13 PM »
Results just announced:
Mariano Rivera was elected unanimously
Edgar Martinez
Roy Halladay
Mike Mussina

These guys will be inducted with Lee Smith and Harold Baines, who were elected by Committee.

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Re: Hall of Fame 2019
« Reply #1: January 22, 2019, 06:26:27 PM »
Outside the unanimous thing, it's a nice representation.

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Re: Hall of Fame 2019
« Reply #2: January 22, 2019, 06:29:57 PM »
Results just announced:
Mariano Rivera was elected unanimously
Edgar Martinez
Roy Halliday
Mike Mussina

These guys will be inducted with Lee Smith and Harold Baines, who were elected by Committee.
Halladay.

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Re: Hall of Fame 2019
« Reply #3: January 22, 2019, 06:32:17 PM »
Halladay.
fixed. It’s a typo. Im on a phone.

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Re: Hall of Fame 2019
« Reply #4: January 22, 2019, 06:40:23 PM »
fixed. It’s a typo. Im on a phone.

I’m.

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Re: Hall of Fame 2019
« Reply #7: January 22, 2019, 06:49:31 PM »
no Schilling. 

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Re: Hall of Fame 2019
« Reply #8: January 22, 2019, 06:51:30 PM »
no Schilling. 

Gosh, I wonder why?

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Re: Hall of Fame 2019
« Reply #9: January 22, 2019, 06:52:20 PM »
Gosh, I wonder why?

from a baseball perspective he deserves entry, and there really shouldn't be any other point of evaluation.

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Re: Hall of Fame 2019
« Reply #10: January 22, 2019, 06:53:18 PM »
from a baseball perspective he deserves entry, and there really shouldn't be any other point of evaluation.

If nothing else, for the sock. :mg:

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Re: Hall of Fame 2019
« Reply #11: January 22, 2019, 06:57:22 PM »
from a baseball perspective he deserves entry, and there really shouldn't be any other point of evaluation.

From a baseball perspective he’s behind bonds and Clemons

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Re: Hall of Fame 2019
« Reply #12: January 22, 2019, 06:58:54 PM »
From a baseball perspective he’s behind bonds and Clemons

...   Rose     :couch:

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Re: Hall of Fame 2019
« Reply #13: January 22, 2019, 07:01:25 PM »
...   Rose     :couch:

Just say no to the criminals and juicers.

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Re: Hall of Fame 2019
« Reply #14: January 22, 2019, 07:01:26 PM »
...   Rose     :couch:

At least the hall can argue he’s banned

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Re: Hall of Fame 2019
« Reply #15: January 22, 2019, 07:01:42 PM »
Rose bet on baseball.

0 votes for Rick Ankiel

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Re: Hall of Fame 2019
« Reply #17: January 22, 2019, 10:59:24 PM »
Given how it almost ruined baseball, taking a player the statue of Babe Ruth to save it, the MLB community has to remain firm against Rose

Pshaw

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Re: Hall of Fame 2019
« Reply #18: January 23, 2019, 09:23:04 AM »
Given how it almost ruined baseball, taking a player the statue of Babe Ruth to save it, the MLB community has to remain firm against Rose


I don't disagree.     Just smilin' at our selective morality and outrage.

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Re: Hall of Fame 2019
« Reply #19: January 23, 2019, 09:27:03 AM »
Given how it almost ruined baseball, taking a player the statue of Babe Ruth to save it, the MLB community has to remain firm against Rose


Ironically the McGuire Sosa home run race arguably was just as important bringing fans back to the game after 94, yet the voters seem to think they didn’t matter

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Re: Hall of Fame 2019
« Reply #20: January 23, 2019, 10:10:10 AM »
The Roid Brothers probably drove off just as many though. 
Ironically the McGuire Sosa home run race arguably was just as important bringing fans back to the game after 94, yet the voters seem to think they didn’t matter

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« Reply #21: January 23, 2019, 10:13:19 AM »
Ironically the McGuire Sosa home run race arguably was just as important bringing fans back to the game after 94, yet the voters seem to think they didn’t matter
Most fans didn’t give a hoot about steroids.

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Re: Hall of Fame 2019
« Reply #22: January 23, 2019, 10:36:08 AM »
The Roid Brothers probably drove off just as many though. 

the people most outraged about steroids are OWG hall of fame voters who despite hating steroids still collect paychecks writing about baseball and probably attend more games as fan than most.

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Re: Hall of Fame 2019
« Reply #23: January 23, 2019, 05:48:34 PM »
Halladay to go in with no designation. His wife announced today.

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Re: Hall of Fame 2019
« Reply #24: January 23, 2019, 09:41:19 PM »
the people most outraged about steroids are OWG hall of fame voters who despite hating steroids still collect paychecks writing about baseball and probably attend more games as fan than most.
I buy what Sheinin was saying that the new electorate for the HoF is no longer dominated by the OWG.  This class, with a reliever getting in unanimously and with Edgar and Mussina rising from their original vote totals, show the decline of the non-sabr voters.  Moose's case is based on era and division adjustments to his ERA, Edgar was a DH.  Both were sub-40, maybe sub 30 in their first year vote.  Schilling topped 60%, Bonds and Clemens are near 60%, and Walker got a big bump. 

Schilling will continue to be an interesting case because his vote is mostly a SABR vote - K:BB ratio, ERA, but very few wins.  His post seasons will help with old timers, but otherwise, he's counting on SABR credentials.  Will the statheads hold his mouth against him?  I hope not.  At worst, he's a jerk, and jerkiness is not a basis for keeping a guy out of the hall unless you want to expel quite a few.