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Sportsbooks to Open at Nats Park
« Topic Start: October 29, 2018, 11:34:45 AM »
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Every state has licensed their sports books through either the existing casino infrastructure, or the state lottery, as D.C. is proposing. Councilmember Jack Evans, a Democrat who represents Ward 2, who introduced the bill, said Wednesday that he foresees five major venues  — Nationals Park, Audi Field, the Entertainment and Sports Arena, Capital One Arena and the Convention Center — as the initial brick-and-mortar establishments, with hotels, bars, restaurants and other local operators able to potentially join them.

That would certainly add some juice to the Nats Park experience. Imagine some betters getting real upset with Martinez if the Nats blow a game.

https://thesportscapitol.com/2018/10/19/what-legal-sports-betting-in-dc-might-look-like/

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« Reply #1: October 29, 2018, 12:30:34 PM »
Works for me. I'm ready to bet the under when Max is pitching.

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« Reply #2: October 29, 2018, 01:34:34 PM »
Works for me. I'm ready to bet the under when Max is pitching.

Right, so you bet the under, Max is throwing a great game and the Nats are up 6-0, Martinez is comfortable with the lead and calls out the dregs of the bullpen, putting your cash at risk. Now you're sitting behind the dugout barking at the manager about a game that he's about to win. Sounds great to me but I can see the players and coaches not being happy about it.

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Re: Sports Books to Open at Nats Park?
« Reply #3: October 29, 2018, 01:50:29 PM »
Now I'll never have to go to Charles Town, WV again

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« Reply #4: October 29, 2018, 02:37:14 PM »
Now I'll never have to go to Charles Town, WV again

I'm thinkin' about hittin' CT some Sunday morning and makin' a day of it.

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« Reply #5: October 29, 2018, 09:10:15 PM »
Right, so you bet the under, Max is throwing a great game and the Nats are up 6-0, Martinez is comfortable with the lead and calls out the dregs of the bullpen, putting your cash at risk. Now you're sitting behind the dugout barking at the manager about a game that he's about to win. Sounds great to me but I can see the players and coaches not being happy about it.

If I'm sitting behind the dugout within earshot of the managers and players it means I've won so many bets chances are I'm not going to be in a mood to scream at anybody. But if I did do some barking I don't think it would affect the coaches and players happiness one way or the other.

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Re: Sports Books to Open at Nats Park?
« Reply #6: October 30, 2018, 04:02:42 AM »
Does this exist already at other ballparks ?  Baseball has always been concerned about betting since the BlackSox Scandal of 1919.  Isn't betting why Pete Rose isn't in Cooperstown ?

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« Reply #7: October 30, 2018, 08:05:21 AM »
Does this exist already at other ballparks ?  Baseball has always been concerned about betting since the BlackSox Scandal of 1919.  Isn't betting why Pete Rose isn't in Cooperstown ?

No idea, it's the city looking at allowing betting at the ballpark but I haven't heard from the team. Leonsis is definitely all in for gambling at Cap One. I'd say it's a safe assumption that the United's ownership would want it at Audi Field. But Nats Park could be the exception. In any case, mobile betting will be a thing so it wouldn't matter if there is an actual casino at the ballpark, there will be people betting on the games there next season.

I wonder if there will be a bar area showing the out of town games. Other than straight bets on the winner or over/under what other bets are popular for baseball? I'd expect a lot of prop bets so gamblers can have something riding on each inning.

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« Reply #8: October 30, 2018, 08:16:26 AM »
For nostalgia sake, I'm hoping the first sports book at a baseball park is either where the White Sox play or Cincinatti.

You would think that, if MLB has any control over the venue (and they may not since the city paid for it), they would say you can bet on anything except pro baseball.  I think the case that went to the supreme court allowed gambling on sports outside Vegas, but I did not think it mandated the states to allow it unconditionally in all venues.

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« Reply #9: October 30, 2018, 08:21:59 AM »
For nostalgia sake, I'm hoping the first sports book at a baseball park is either where the White Sox play or Cincinatti.

You would think that, if MLB has any control over the venue (and they may not since the city paid for it), they would say you can bet on anything except pro baseball.  I think the case that went to the supreme court allowed gambling on sports outside Vegas, but I did not think it mandated the states to allow it unconditionally in all venues.

If you have a locality that feels they got screwed on a stadium deal, offering betting on that sport seems like a good way to recoup some money, so much the better if the league/owners don’t want it

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« Reply #10: October 30, 2018, 08:25:00 AM »
For nostalgia sake, I'm hoping the first sports book at a baseball park is either where the White Sox play or Cincinatti.

You would think that, if MLB has any control over the venue (and they may not since the city paid for it), they would say you can bet on anything except pro baseball.  I think the case that went to the supreme court allowed gambling on sports outside Vegas, but I did not think it mandated the states to allow it unconditionally in all venues.

With mobile betting it could be that the genie is out of the bottle so the Nats might as well cash in. (The team definitely has control over whether the ballpark has a casino. Good question about whether MLB policy would allow it.)

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« Reply #11: October 30, 2018, 08:26:11 AM »
With mobile betting it could be that the genie is out of the bottle so the Nats might as well cash in.

Who is going to pay the house more to bet through a team venue?

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« Reply #12: October 30, 2018, 08:30:21 AM »
Who is going to pay the house more to bet through a team venue?

Same people who head into the ballpark an hour before the game to drink over priced beer instead of pre-gaming outside.

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« Reply #13: October 30, 2018, 08:31:53 AM »
Same people who head into the ballpark an hour before the game to drink over priced beer instead of pre-gaming outside.

You can’t take beer into the park, you can take a phone into the park

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« Reply #14: October 30, 2018, 08:44:52 AM »
You can’t take beer into the park, you can take a phone into the park

You don't need to enter the park early to drink but a lot of people do. (Probably the team would hire a third party to run the books, they already have a partnership with MGM.)


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« Reply #15: October 30, 2018, 09:10:40 AM »
You don't need to enter the park early to drink but a lot of people do.[...]]

...among them yours truly - drinking (admittedly overpriced) Estrella Jalisco in air-conditioned comfort at TVFKATRP*, with seating available more often than not, is often difficult to resist.

*The Venue Formerly Known As The Red Porch

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« Reply #16: October 30, 2018, 09:57:43 AM »
Are any other teams considering something like this? I guess in other states, a sports book in the actual MLB stadium would be fought tooth and nail by the casinos, but there are no casinos in the District of Columbia.

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« Reply #17: October 30, 2018, 10:03:25 AM »
Many would have lost a lost of money in June lol.

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« Reply #18: October 30, 2018, 11:56:06 AM »
Article on baseball betting:

https://www.thesportsgeek.com/blog/baseball-prop-bets-can-they-be-profitable-2851/

I can see betting on the first five innings and betting on individual player production being popular.

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Re: Sports Books to Open at Nats Park?
« Reply #19: October 30, 2018, 05:06:57 PM »
With so many discrete plays, there's an unlimited amount of possible bets.  1st pitch strikes, batting around the order, GIDPs, etc...  Season, game, inning, PA  . . . 

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« Reply #20: October 30, 2018, 05:11:07 PM »
With so many discrete plays, there's an unlimited amount of possible bets.  1st pitch strikes, batting around the order, GIDPs, etc...  Season, game, inning, PA  . . .

I'll take Zimm GIDP's for $500.00 Alex...

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« Reply #21: October 30, 2018, 05:13:14 PM »
I'll take Zimm GIDP's for $500.00 Alex...
Ian Desmond swing and misses.

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« Reply #22: October 30, 2018, 05:16:09 PM »
I'll take Zimm GIDP's for $500.00 Alex...

Can we bet on Carp miss callin' a fly ball?

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« Reply #23: October 30, 2018, 05:19:02 PM »
Can we bet on Carp miss callin' a fly ball?

Good one...how about FP lecturin' the fans?

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« Reply #24: October 30, 2018, 05:27:37 PM »
I will bet on being overcharged for food and drink.