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Updated - who does Harper sign with?

Nationals
25 (47.2%)
Phillies
22 (41.5%)
Padres
2 (3.8%)
D'backs
1 (1.9%)
White Sox
3 (5.7%)

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« Reply #2625 on: February 24, 2019, 09:05:38 am »
Why is it just assumed that Bryce will get more than Machado? They are pretty equivalent players and if anything, Machado is a little better.

https://nypost.com/2019/02/23/twitter-abuzz-over-bryce-harper-phillies-talks/
According to Jon Heyman of MLB Network, Harper’s asking price by some of the involved teams is in the $350 million-$360 million range. The case for Harper being worth more is the fact he will bring greater star power to a team than Machado will.

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« Reply #2626 on: February 24, 2019, 09:49:44 am »
Why is it just assumed that Bryce will get more than Machado? They are pretty equivalent players and if anything, Machado is a little better.
machado plays a more valuable position(s).  They both have their enemies in baseball, too, so I don't think it is the jerk factor.  Harper has had the two best seasons of the two of them offensively, and contracts are about offense, I guess. 

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« Reply #2627 on: February 24, 2019, 11:41:42 am »
machado plays a more valuable position(s).  They both have their enemies in baseball, too, so I don't think it is the jerk factor.  Harper has had the two best seasons of the two of them offensively, and contracts are about offense, I guess.
Offensively they're about equal.  Machado is far superior defensively, and so, on balance, Machado is the better player.   But Machado is a thug, and that makes people uneasy, which lowers his market value.  If there were no baseball, Machado would be an MS-13 member, Harper would at least keep clean (probably not amount to anything).

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« Reply #2628 on: February 24, 2019, 11:44:24 am »
Machado is a dirty player and bad role model and Harper is a star. So you pay Harper more given that they're fairly equal players.

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« Reply #2629 on: February 24, 2019, 11:52:26 am »
Machado is a dirty player and bad role model and Harper is a star. So you pay Harper more given that they're fairly equal players.
I don't see how one concludes that they are fairly equal.  They are fairly equal offensively.  Harper is a liability defensively while Machado is an elite third baseman. Doesn't that make Machado clearly superior?

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« Reply #2630 on: February 24, 2019, 12:04:43 pm »
I don't see how one concludes that they are fairly equal.  They are fairly equal offensively.  Harper is a liability defensively while Machado is an elite third baseman. Doesn't that make Machado clearly superior?

As long as we're parsing words, I wouldn't call Harper a defensive liability.

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« Reply #2631 on: February 24, 2019, 12:22:39 pm »
I don't see how one concludes that they are fairly equal.  They are fairly equal offensively.  Harper is a liability defensively while Machado is an elite third baseman. Doesn't that make Machado clearly superior?

Machado is the better player, Harper is better at selling tickets. That's the argument Boras is allegedly making right now.

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« Reply #2632 on: February 24, 2019, 12:31:10 pm »
As long as we're parsing words, I wouldn't call Harper a defensive liability.

Would you agree with this assessment (which I've heard from at least one "expert"):  He's an average left fielder, below average right fielder, and a liability in center.

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« Reply #2633 on: February 24, 2019, 01:40:26 pm »
Machado is the better player, Harper is better at selling tickets. That's the argument Boras is allegedly making right now.

Agree. Machado plays a premium position and is one of the top defenders at that position and in the game.

I guess people forget Bryce’s low iq throws missing the cut off man or throwing to the wrong base.

Bryce and Manny are both not $300 million players, no one is other than maybe Trout. However, Harper is the most overrated out of the group.

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« Reply #2634 on: February 24, 2019, 01:43:22 pm »
Would you agree with this assessment (which I've heard from at least one "expert"):  He's an average left fielder, below average right fielder, and a liability in center.

I would say that Harper is average in LF and RF and below average in CF.

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« Reply #2635 on: February 24, 2019, 04:08:35 pm »
Offensively they're about equal.  Machado is far superior defensively, and so, on balance, Machado is the better player.   But Machado is a thug, and that makes people uneasy, which lowers his market value.  If there were no baseball, Machado would be an MS-13 member, Harper would at least keep clean (probably not amount to anything).

Machado is too much of a nag to be MS 13

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« Reply #2636 on: February 24, 2019, 05:29:40 pm »
Offensively they're about equal.  Machado is far superior defensively, and so, on balance, Machado is the better player.   But Machado is a thug, and that makes people uneasy, which lowers his market value.  If there were no baseball, Machado would be an MS-13 member, Harper would at least keep clean (probably not amount to anything).

So basically, Machado is Latino, and Harper isn’t?  :shrug:

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« Reply #2637 on: February 24, 2019, 05:31:46 pm »
Why is it just assumed that Bryce will get more than Machado? They are pretty equivalent players and if anything, Machado is a little better.
"marketability"

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« Reply #2638 on: February 24, 2019, 07:05:02 pm »
Still begging, hoping, praying, that Harper will end up with the Phillies !

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« Reply #2639 on: February 24, 2019, 07:14:50 pm »
Still begging, hoping, praying, that Harper will end up with the Phillies !


Still begging, hoping, praying, that Harper will end up with the Nats! :rofl:

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« Reply #2640 on: February 24, 2019, 07:17:37 pm »
Offensively they're about equal.  Machado is far superior defensively, and so, on balance, Machado is the better player.   But Machado is a thug, and that makes people uneasy, which lowers his market value.  If there were no baseball, Machado would be an MS-13 member, Harper would at least keep clean (probably not amount to anything).

So you've insulted both Latinos and physically challenged people in one day. That takes some doing. :roll:

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« Reply #2641 on: February 24, 2019, 07:22:50 pm »
Still begging, hoping, praying, that Harper will end up with the Nats! :rofl:

I'll root for him if that happens, but I'd rather root against him ! :P

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« Reply #2642 on: February 24, 2019, 07:28:58 pm »
I'll root for him if that happens, but I'd rather root against him ! :P


You won't be alone. My son said we he will burn his Harper Nats jersey if he signs with the Phillies.

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« Reply #2643 on: February 24, 2019, 07:29:32 pm »
I don’t think the Phillies are better than our Nats even if they have Harper. If we don’t have poor health, there’s no one that can beat us.

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« Reply #2644 on: February 24, 2019, 07:38:37 pm »
I don’t think the Phillies are better than our Nats even if they have Harper. If we don’t have poor health, there’s no one that can beat us.

I think it will be a very close division race. Not sure about the Phillies pitching, but the Braves are the team to beat. Defending champs and all.

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« Reply #2645 on: February 24, 2019, 07:38:40 pm »
You won't be alone. My son said we he will burn his Harper Nats jersey if he signs with the Phillies.

There are better options to burning it...

How old is your son ?


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« Reply #2646 on: February 24, 2019, 07:56:49 pm »
I think it will be a very close division race. Not sure about the Phillies pitching, but the Braves are the team to beat. Defending champs and all.

100% but as is... the Phillies bullpen won’t cut it. Neither will the Braves. We’d be smart to offer Kimbrel 2/50 and live over the tax this year.

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« Reply #2647 on: February 24, 2019, 08:05:11 pm »
So you've insulted both Latinos and physically challenged people in one day.

Three days.  The cripple reference  was 2/22.

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« Reply #2648 on: February 24, 2019, 08:10:51 pm »
We’d be smart to offer Kimbrel 2/50 and live over the tax this year.

Oh hell no !

The dude's a money grabbing merc like Harper.


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« Reply #2649 on: February 24, 2019, 08:15:20 pm »
There are better options to burning it...

How old is your son ?


 

Old enough to use matches.