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Updated - who does Harper sign with?

Nationals
25 (47.2%)
Phillies
22 (41.5%)
Padres
2 (3.8%)
D'backs
1 (1.9%)
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3 (5.7%)

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« Reply #225: November 06, 2018, 07:22:37 PM »
Meh, that offer would always be there, why take the offer when you can at least see what else is out there.

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« Reply #226: November 06, 2018, 07:40:39 PM »
Rendon would be top priority for me. I can't sign Harper and not have enough left for Anthony. Hopefully they are thinking like this.

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« Reply #227: November 06, 2018, 08:09:54 PM »
I had a gut feeling that being a Nat was more important than the biggest deal ever. I guess I was wrong.




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« Reply #228: November 06, 2018, 08:19:45 PM »
He made it this close to free agency, he’s not signing an extension now without hearing other offers

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« Reply #229: November 06, 2018, 09:16:39 PM »
It confirms that the absolute floor for Harper is over 30 million per year.

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« Reply #230: November 06, 2018, 09:19:06 PM »
I had a gut feeling that being a Nat was more important than the biggest deal ever. I guess I was wrong.

Once you're into that type of guaranteed money, a couple million extra a year doesn't even mean anything. It's an ego thing at this point t. Too bad.

If the Nats were serious about keeping him, they would have locked him up long ago.

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« Reply #231: November 06, 2018, 10:18:29 PM »
Sources: Nationals made Bryce Harper ‘aggressive offer' last month, did not reach agreement

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2018/11/06/sources-nationals-made-bryce-harper-aggressive-offer-last-month-did-not-reach-agreement/?utm_term=.9718564430cc
If I was Harper that would seal the deal for me to leave. Why wait until the last day of the season. It’s an insult.

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« Reply #232: November 06, 2018, 10:57:16 PM »
If I was Harper that would seal the deal for me to leave. Why wait until the last day of the season. It’s an insult.

they obviously made offers before that. this was clearly leaked by the nationals side to say "hey we gave him a big contract and he said no, we tried"

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« Reply #233: November 07, 2018, 07:58:59 AM »
they obviously made offers before that. this was clearly leaked by the nationals side to say "hey we gave him a big contract and he said no, we tried"
Not obvious to me. They should have leaked that also. If there were previous offers and this one was aggressive then the others must have been low balls.

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« Reply #234: November 07, 2018, 08:16:07 AM »
It confirms that the absolute floor for Harper is over 30 million per year.

Be interesting if, say, the next best offer to the Nats $30M, is something a couple million less. Then, it's the Nats who are red-faced.

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« Reply #235: November 07, 2018, 08:20:51 AM »
Be interesting if, say, the next best offer to the Nats $30M, is something a couple million less. Then, it's the Nats who are red-faced.

Boras won't let him take less. That's not where he's at in his career. That's something Harper does in his early to mid 30s to win a championship

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« Reply #236: November 07, 2018, 08:35:57 AM »
Boras won't let him take less. That's not where he's at in his career. That's something Harper does in his early to mid 30s to win a championship

It’s not Boras signing the deal. Part of the reason players hire Boras is to not be the bad guy, but accepting or not accepting the deal is always a player’s choice

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Re: POLL: Bryce's team in 2019 will be.....
« Reply #237: November 07, 2018, 09:03:28 AM »
11 years, $330MM let's him top Giancarlo in total dollars, so I don't think Boras will let him consider less.  Also, the Nats offer purportedly did not include opt-outs, which is another guaranteed fail. 

I do not want to sign him for that kind of money.  I'm not sure I'd sign him to 7 years, $210MM.

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« Reply #238: November 07, 2018, 09:07:43 AM »
11 years, $330MM let's him top Giancarlo in total dollars, so I don't think Boras will let him consider less.  Also, the Nats offer purportedly did not include opt-outs, which is another guaranteed fail. 

I do not want to sign him for that kind of money.  I'm not sure I'd sign him to 7 years, $210MM.
I agree. I think last season set off too many concerns to sign him to that money. That he came into season wanting to get a personal achievement and refused to change for half a year despite coaches' advice and failing results, should be more than enough to pass. I'm done. 30+ million a year should buy me the common sense enough to realize that trying to hit 60 home runs is costing your team games before the ASB. Take that money, give half of it to Rendon, and use the rest to get a quality starting pitcher.

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Re: POLL: Bryce's team in 2019 will be.....
« Reply #239: November 07, 2018, 09:15:13 AM »
I think you could get Rendon for 6 years, $132MM ($22MM AAV). That's bigger than JD Martinez's contract.

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« Reply #240: November 07, 2018, 09:16:20 AM »
I think you could get Rendon for 6 years, $132MM ($22MM AAV). That's bigger than JD Martinez's contract.

Sounds good to me. I think what Donaldson gets will set the market for Rendon.

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« Reply #241: November 07, 2018, 10:08:57 AM »
Isn't Donaldson expected to get a smaller contract because of injury concerns?

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« Reply #242: November 07, 2018, 10:16:48 AM »
106.7 is leadin' off the G & D show with the Nats/Harper.     :shock:

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« Reply #243: November 07, 2018, 10:17:04 AM »
Apparently we offered 10/$300 with no opt-outs. That's a good offer and I think Boras knows he can come back to that as a base if he doesn't like what teams are offering.

That said, not sure I want him at that price.

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« Reply #244: November 07, 2018, 10:19:30 AM »
106.7 is leadin' off the G & D show with the Nats/Harper.     :shock:
How and why would that be usual? They talk a lot of baseball. Probably the biggest reason I like them.

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« Reply #245: November 07, 2018, 10:20:19 AM »
Isn't Donaldson expected to get a smaller contract because of injury concerns?
I could see fewer years, but I expect his AAV to be substantial and a good baseline for Rendon.  I also think Machado's contract will factor in.

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« Reply #246: November 07, 2018, 10:20:33 AM »
Apparently we offered 10/$300 with no opt-outs. That's a good offer and I think Boras knows he can come back to that as a base if he doesn't like what teams are offering.

That said, not sure I want him at that price.

It was fair (not Bud Black "insulting").    They'll reject it.    Everybody moves on.

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« Reply #247: November 07, 2018, 10:40:10 AM »
Apparently we offered 10/$300 with no opt-outs. That's a good offer and I think Boras knows he can come back to that as a base if he doesn't like what teams are offering.

That said, not sure I want him at that price.
He will get more. The only question is if he wants to come back to the Nats for a counter offer.

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« Reply #248: November 07, 2018, 10:44:45 AM »
To me, our side leaking all this out tells me they don't plan on offering more and are going to move on. Enjoy the...Chicago White Sox, Bryce.

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« Reply #249: November 07, 2018, 11:01:54 AM »
St. Louis seems to be gaining steam as a rumor, and honestly, good luck with that Bryce. Congrats on being a mercenary on a team that puts scrappy middle infielders on a higher pedestal than you.