Author Topic: Now free agency begins (Read 8983 times)

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #50:** November 03, 2017, 02:40:43 PM »

Quote from: CoryTheFormerExposFan on November 03, 2017, 01:32:39 PM

I was thinking somebody either under a very team-friendly contract or still under team control. I doubt with Doo and Madson that we spend the money on a multi-year deal for a top bullpen arm on the market. I suspect we'll add some budget guys and hope for some luck lke with Albers, hope Glover returns to form, and then explore further at the deadline as needed.

If Ted really wants to do this thing, he'll go get Davis and bring back Albers and/or Kintzler. This is the year to disregard the luxury tax.

Truconfidence · « **Reply #51:** November 03, 2017, 02:43:49 PM »

Really like to see Tillman looked at. he is a guy who has gone 200 innings a couple of times and was great ptiching in the smalloarks of the AL East, had a terrible year. Can be had cheap, and probably has a bounce back year in the NL.

Ray D · « **Reply #52:** November 03, 2017, 03:26:28 PM »

Quote from: Truconfidence on November 03, 2017, 02:40:37 PM

Supposedly if they offer and he declines they have to pay him 500K.

If the Nationals exercise the option and he declines, the Nationals have to pay him? But if they don't exercise the option they don't? That doesn't make sense.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #53:** November 03, 2017, 03:31:50 PM »

Quote from: Ray D on November 03, 2017, 03:26:28 PM

If the Nationals exercise the option and he declines, the Nationals have to pay him? But if they don't exercise the option they don't? That doesn't make sense.

It's a buyout. They're pretty common.

dcpatti · « **Reply #54:** November 03, 2017, 03:57:16 PM »

The buyouts keep the teams honest (at least in theory). They can't dangle a ridiculous option year amount in front of a player to trigger him into signing a cheap initial year if you have some sort of money cost to not retaining him. I am not sure i'm explaining that right, though.

The Mets had an $8.5 million option on Cabrera, which they are exercising, but had they opted not to, their buyout would have been $2 million.

The Mets picking up that option is among the most Metsiest things ever, btw, considering that Cabrera asked to be traded in the middle of the season when he found himself shifted to 2b rather than his usual shortstop.

imref · « **Reply #55:** November 03, 2017, 04:02:58 PM »

someone needs to update the title of this thread.

CoryTheFormerExposFan · « **Reply #56:** November 03, 2017, 04:16:43 PM »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on November 03, 2017, 02:40:43 PM

If Ted really wants to do this thing, he'll go get Davis and bring back Albers and/or Kintzler. This is the year to disregard the luxury tax.

Albers and Kintzler make me nervous. Albers sort of came out of nowehere last year. Kintlzler doesn't miss bats at all. And they're both in their mid-30s. I would give them 1 year deals for reasonable amounts, but if another team wants to overpay...I wouldn't get in a bidding war.

CoryTheFormerExposFan · « **Reply #57:** November 03, 2017, 04:18:56 PM »

Quote from: Truconfidence on November 03, 2017, 02:40:37 PM

Supposedly if they offer and he declines they have to pay him 500K. he was gonna decline no matter what.

Pretty sure the team only pays the buyout if they decline the option. If the player is the one that declines a mutual option, they don't get any buyout.

Expos · « **Reply #58:** November 03, 2017, 04:28:42 PM »

Sign:

SP- Lance Lynn
RP- Matt Albers
1B- Lucas Duda

C- Weiters / Severino
1B- Ryan Zimmerman / Lucas Duda
2B- Daniel Murphy / Wilmer Difo
3B- Anthony Rendon
SS- Trae Turner
LF- Bryce Harper
CF- Michael Taylor / Brian Goodwin
RF- Adam Eaton / Victor Robles

1- Stephen Strasburg
2- Max Scherzer
3- Gio Gonzalez
4- Lance Lynn
5- Tanner Roark

Closer- Sean Doolittle
Setup- Ryan Madsen
Wander Suero
Matt Albers
Koda Glover
Enny Romero
Sammy Solis

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #59:** November 03, 2017, 04:31:25 PM »

Quote from: CoryTheFormerExposFan on November 03, 2017, 04:16:43 PM

Albers and Kintzler make me nervous. Albers sort of came out of nowehere last year. Kintlzler doesn't miss bats at all. And they're both in their mid-30s. I would give them 1 year deals for reasonable amounts, but if another team wants to overpay...I wouldn't get in a bidding war.

Well, no, Alberts didn't come out of nowhere, but since he'd been toiling on bad teams, and last year was bad, he was just under the radar. Since 2012, he'd been very good except for 2016. Kintzler's been solid for several years now, too. I'm not saying sign to 4/60 deals but for next year, I'd be fine with both of them for a year. Maybe even two.

imref · « **Reply #60:** November 03, 2017, 04:31:36 PM »

You need another backup MI. Duda would be a good addition though in the Lind 1B/LF LHB off the bench role.

aspenbubba · « **Reply #61:** November 03, 2017, 04:37:29 PM »

Quote from: Expos on November 03, 2017, 04:28:42 PM

Sign:

SP- Lance Lynn
RP- Matt Albers
1B- Lucas Duda

C- Weiters / Severino
1B- Ryan Zimmerman / Lucas Duda
2B- Daniel Murphy / Wilmer Difo
3B- Anthony Rendon
SS- Trae Turner
LF- Bryce Harper
CF- Michael Taylor / Brian Goodwin
RF- Adam Eaton / Victor Robles

1- Stephen Strasburg
2- Max Scherzer
3- Gio Gonzalez
4- Lance Lynn
5- Tanner Roark

Closer- Sean Doolittle
Setup- Ryan Madsen
Wander Suero
Matt Albers
Koda Glover
Enny Romero
Sammy Solis

Kelley will be here next year as he is in the last year of his contract. I also like Cole as a middle innings reliever who can give you 3-4 quality innings. I really don't like Lynn and Gio as our # 3 in the play-offs and don't tell me Ross could fit in. Also, Robles should be in AAA to start the season.

Ray D · « **Reply #62:** November 03, 2017, 04:46:51 PM »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on November 03, 2017, 03:31:50 PM

It's a buyout. They're pretty common.

I understand buyout. It would make sense if the Nats DECLINED the option that they might owe him the buyout. What we seem to be saying is that if the Nate EXERCISE the option and he declines, then we owe him the buyout. I don't understand how that makes sense. A buyout is when Party A owes money to Party B because Party A declined the option.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #63:** November 03, 2017, 04:57:54 PM »

Lind has 300 plate appearances last year. Who are they going to get to have his production for less than 5 million. Lucas Duda? Batted .217 last year. .242 career hitter. Of course he would cheaper because he stinks.

Slateman · « **Reply #64:** November 03, 2017, 06:20:47 PM »

Quote from: Smithian on November 03, 2017, 02:37:35 PM

If Carlos Santana had played any catcher in the last couple years he would be the FA that I want. Split him with Wieters and Zim. Then after Zim moves on he is the first baseman.

Even in his heyday, he was worse defensively