Nationals vs Mets, Game 4 (make-up of July 6th postponed game)

[skippy1999]

  !!!!!

[Slateman]

Dusty broke the pen

[DPMOmaha]

I like beating the Mets.

[bluestreak]

  inner, inner, chicken dinner!

[dcpatti]

Dusty broke the pen

Dusty broke MAT. Doolittle has always been a wild ride and the defense covers up for a lot of that. MAT makes that play and we aren't having this conversation.

MAT will be fine once he gets some rest though.  He's just played every single game since coming back from the DL.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Hey, I was on for the 1st 32 posts . . .  then watched the game on the couch, not at the desk.

Kudos for the old bullpen.  When was the last time Albers, Kelley, and Blanton appeared in a game together and did not give up a run?

As for Baton Rouge, there's a reason they call that stretch of the Mississippi down to New Orleans "Cancer Alley," and it isn't the smoking or lack of sunscreen.  W. Pa. now has mostly breathable air. 

[JCA-CrystalCity]

While it doesn't seem like a great stretch, the last time we had 2 losses in a row was 8/1 and 8/2 @ the Marlins.  No pair of losses on the 1st page of the GDTs. 15-9.

[OldChelsea]

Comparative dates on which the Nationals notched their 78th win, each season:

2017 - 27th August (129th match of season)
2012 - 29th August (129th match)
2016 - 31st August (133rd match season)
2014 - 1st September (136th match)
2013 - 13th September (147th match)
2015 - 20th September (149th match)
2005 - 22nd September (153rd match)
2011 - 25th September (158th match)
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2007 - finished 73-89
2006 - finished 71-91
2010 - finished 69-93
2008 - finished 59-102
2009 - finished 59-103

[mitlen]

As for Baton Rouge, there's a reason they call that stretch of the Mississippi down to New Orleans "Cancer Alley," and it isn't the smoking or lack of sunscreen.  W. Pa. now has mostly breathable air. 

"While the quality of Pittsburgh’s air has drastically improved since steel industry’s heyday, the city and its surrounding areas still get a big fat F from the American Lung Association. "

http://www.timesonline.com/news/environment/pittsburgh-s-air-quality-an-explainer/article_f410df20-c863-11e6-b490-cf649678e223.html

http://www.stateoftheair.org/2015/city-rankings/most-polluted-cities.html

[JCA-CrystalCity]

"While the quality of Pittsburgh’s air has drastically improved since steel industry’s heyday, the city and its surrounding areas still get a big fat F from the American Lung Association. "

http://www.timesonline.com/news/environment/pittsburgh-s-air-quality-an-explainer/article_f410df20-c863-11e6-b490-cf649678e223.html

http://www.stateoftheair.org/2015/city-rankings/most-polluted-cities.html

well, there's a lot worse.  It doesn't meet standard for S02, Ozone, and Particulate in Alleghany county, but it is mostly marginal / moderate.  Compare that to Houston, San Joaquin Valley, LA, which are mostly serious / severe /extreme, and Pittsburgh is closer to right than many other cities that would get an F from ALA.  I think Pittsburgh is one of those cities that benefits from upwind controls that are being phased in on power plants.

[mitlen]

well, there's a lot worse.  It doesn't meet standard for S02, Ozone, and Particulate in Alleghany county, but it is mostly marginal / moderate.  Compare that to Houston, San Joaquin Valley, LA, which are mostly serious / severe /extreme, and Pittsburgh is closer to right than many other cities that would get an F from ALA.  I think Pittsburgh is one of those cities that benefits from upwind controls that are being phased in on power plants.

Doesn't quite make it "mostly breathable".    Kind of like folks who think one degree of temperature change or a 2 inch water level rise doesn't indicate a possible problem.    It's not "mostly breathable" when "kids" you knew growin' up are dying of odd blood and lung disorders/cancer.   Some of them died in their 40s.    Won't even begin the COPD discussion.    Is it better than it was in the 50s?    Yep.    But just because you can't see it or the ALA doesn't measure it, like in the 40s and 50s, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.    When you live there and breath that trash "closer to right" ain't close enough.    That is all.   

It's all relative.    Western PA is three miles west and downwind from the attached stories' facility.   Of course the folks in W. PA (3 miles up river) are more worried about the atomic power plant, coal burning power facility and fracking refinery that are closer to them.   



BTW   This "incinerator" was targeted by Clinton and Gore in '92.   

Al-Jezeera's paid closer attention to it than the American government:

http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/america-tonight/2016/1/left-behind-in-ohio-broken-election-promises-lead-to-a-fight-with-cancer.html

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Doesn't quite make it "mostly breathable".    Kind of like folks who think one degree of temperature change or a 2 inch water level rise doesn't indicate a possible problem.    It's not "mostly breathable" when "kids" you knew growin' up are dying of odd blood and lung disorders/cancer.   Some of them died in their 40s.    Won't even begin the COPD discussion.    Is it better than it was in the 50s?    Yep.    But just because you can't see it or the ALA doesn't measure it, like in the 40s and 50s, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.    When you live there and breath that trash "closer to right" ain't close enough.    That is all.   

It's all relative.    Western PA is three miles west and downwind from the attached stories' facility.   Of course the folks in W. PA (3 miles up river) are more worried about the atomic power plant, coal burning power facility and fracking refinery that are closer to them.   



BTW   This "incinerator" was targeted by Clinton and Gore in '92.   

Al-Jezeera's paid closer attention to it than the American government:

http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/america-tonight/2016/1/left-behind-in-ohio-broken-election-promises-lead-to-a-fight-with-cancer.html

I know the plant.  One of the last things Bill Reilly did was to push through its permit, and one of the first things Carol Browner did was to try to get the permit revoked.   There's still a lot of industry around there that has issues so it is sometimes tough to say which plant causes which problem. 

As for the "mostly breathable," I guess it is sort of like finding a guy drowning 20' below the surface and hauling him back up to 2' below.  You can't claim too much credit for taking the fellow most of the way to safety.  That said, the number of days with very bad air are a lot fewer than how it used to be, and there are areas with worse conditions.   Small comfort.  It's still not healthy.   

Some data - https://www3.epa.gov/airquality/greenbook/ancl.html

[varoadking]

Missus comes down stairs and sez, "You still watching' the game?"    I sez, "Yeah, it started at 8.  It's only been on a little over three hours.    Just think, I gotta do this every night."     Head shake, turns and walks away.

I guess asking her if she shouldn't be at work would have meant getting clobbered with another frying pan...