Report: Wieters Nearing Deal with Nats

[DCFan]

Everyone says the Lerners are cheap. And then when they sign someone they overpaid. It's not my money. Not keeping them from signing anyone else this year. Worry about next year next year.

Amen. 

[houston-nat]

FanGraphs hates it:

"So, after spending a few months not spending money to upgrade their bullpen or their worst-in-the-league group of reserves, the Nationals found $21 million to give to a catcher who isn’t significantly better than the catcher they already had....

"I’m pretty sure $21M could get you Joe Blanton and Angel Pagan with enough money left over to finance Joe Blanton and Angel Pagan bobblehead dolls for everyone who comes to some random game in July."

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/nationals-sign-matt-wieters-for-some-reason/

[NJ Ave]

I'm disappointed that no one here has pointed out the most important part of this trade: Matt Wieters looks a lot better than Derek Norris in jeans.

[Minty Fresh]

Depends on if this means Severino can be moved for Robertson.

Now there are some rumors that it may be Norris on the move. 

If that works, that's some serious GM-jujitsu by Rizzo.

[Glockypoo]

FanGraphs hates it:

"So, after spending a few months not spending money to upgrade their bullpen or their worst-in-the-league group of reserves, the Nationals found $21 million to give to a catcher who isn’t significantly better than the catcher they already had....

"I’m pretty sure $21M could get you Joe Blanton and Angel Pagan with enough money left over to finance Joe Blanton and Angel Pagan bobblehead dolls for everyone who comes to some random game in July."

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/nationals-sign-matt-wieters-for-some-reason/

Odd article. They repeatedly mention the Nats failure to upgrade the bench while making reference to "useful left-handed 1B/LF types" still on the market.

It's almost as if they didn't get the memo about Adam Lind.

[Trea Burner]

Now there are some rumors that it may be Norris on the move. 

If that works, that's some serious GM-jujitsu by Rizzo.

For Robertson? Done and done. No take backs!

[GuyFromCO]

Now there are some rumors that it may be Norris on the move. 

If that works, that's some serious GM-jujitsu by Rizzo.

If salary was the issue, I'm not sure how signing a guy that is maybe a small upgrade for $7M a year helps, but I don't know crap.

[DCFan]

FanGraphs hates it:

"So, after spending a few months not spending money to upgrade their bullpen or their worst-in-the-league group of reserves, the Nationals found $21 million to give to a catcher who isn’t significantly better than the catcher they already had....

"I’m pretty sure $21M could get you Joe Blanton and Angel Pagan with enough money left over to finance Joe Blanton and Angel Pagan bobblehead dolls for everyone who comes to some random game in July."

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/nationals-sign-matt-wieters-for-some-reason/

Why does this have to be a one or the other type of deal and that any subsequent additions are not possible?

[GuyFromCO]

Why does this have to be a one or the other type of deal and that any subsequent additions are not possible?

Because ST has already started and we still haven't heard of any moves to be made (or ones that have been made), outside of failed attempts... so... I have no reason to expect anything otherwise.

[DCFan]

Because ST has already started and we still haven't heard of any moves to be made (or ones that have been made), outside of failed attempts... so... I have no reason to expect anything otherwise.

What are you dense? ST has already started and we picked up Wieters.  Murphy was a late addition last year and look how that turned out.

[Ray D]

I'm disappointed that no one here has pointed out the most important part of this trade: Matt Wieters looks a lot better than Derek Norris in jeans.

I did point out earlier in this thread how ugly Norris is.

[Ray D]

If salary was the issue, I'm not sure how signing a guy that is maybe a small upgrade for $7M a year helps, but I don't know crap.

You know as much as any of the rest of us do.

[HalfSmokes]

Rizzo will leave to a better ownership situation as soon as he can.

Good for him, I wonder how he'd deal with the d-rays financial constraints

[HalfSmokes]

If salary was the issue, I'm not sure how signing a guy that is maybe a small upgrade for $7M a year helps, but I don't know crap.

Maybe the guy leaking stuff about ownership was looking for excuses after a terrible offseason?

[imref]

Deal is done.  http://foxsports1340am.com/washington-nationals-sign-matt-wieters-2-year-deal/

Norris is due to make something like $5 million next year.  He's probably pretty worthless as far as trade bait. I don't see the point of carrying three catchers to have Norris pinch hit when we've got Lind.  So my guess is that Loboton is done.

The Nats have to clear a 40 man slot for Weiters as well.

[Expos]

CF- Adam Eaton
SS- Trae Turner
2B- Daniel Murphy
RF- Bryce Harper
3B- Anthony Rendon
C- Matt Weiters
LF- Jayson Werth
1B- Ryan Zimmerman

Bench:
1B- Adam Lind
2B- Stephen Drew
C- Jose Lobaton
OF- Chris Heisey
OF- Michael Taylor

*Daniel Norris / Pedro Severino

Good luck league. If Harper gets back to MVP form
 Wow.

[NJ Ave]

Good for him, I wonder how he'd deal with the d-rays financial constraints

If you had the same salary, I wonder how many GMs would take a more volatile front office situation with a better chance at a World Series title over the opposite? Probably not too many. Your chances are always slim, and who knows - maybe Rizzo would prefer drafting, developing, trading them as they get expensive. Those seem to be his strengths over pandering to the expensive veterans.

[UMDNats]

Rizzo will leave to a better ownership situation as soon as he can.

Yeah, this is the final nail in the coffin. Mark bails out Scott again. Bad move that reeks of desperation and "well, let's just do something."

[GburgNatsFan]

Unless a catcher is going to Chicago for Robertson, as some baseball sources have suggested.

http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/news/mlb-trade-rumors-white-sox-ready-to-trade-david-robertson-to-nationals/efwt39gndmxl16rnhvf1v2trw

Yeah, this is the final nail in the coffin. Mark bails out Scott again. Bad move that reeks of desperation and "well, let's just do something."

[NJ Ave]

Yeah, this is the final nail in the coffin. Mark bails out Scott again.

We may want to wait on the Rizzo long game here. There have been a lot of reports about the White Sox waiting on the Robertson talks until the Wieters thing was settled.

$21 million + Norris/Severino for Robertson + Wieters is a big win for me.

[imref]

We may want to wait on the Rizzo long game here. There have been a lot of reports about the White Sox waiting on the Robertson talks until the Wieters thing was settled.

$21 million + Norris/Severino for Robertson + Wieters is a big win for me.

Just posted this on the closer watch:

http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/news/mlb-trade-rumors-white-sox-ready-to-trade-david-robertson-to-nationals/efwt39gndmxl16rnhvf1v2trw

also:

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A team that has been talking with the White Sox says they've been waiting for Nats to sign Wieters to rekindle David Robertson trade talks

[HalfSmokes]

If you had the same salary, I wonder how many GMs would take a more volatile front office situation with a better chance at a World Series title over the opposite? Probably not too many. Your chances are always slim, and who knows - maybe Rizzo would prefer drafting, developing, trading them as they get expensive. Those seem to be his strengths over pandering to the expensive veterans.

Of course, by their nature, stable situations with the ability to win rarely open

[Slateman]

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Let me be more direct:  You can't tie up three roster spots on guys who only catch or play first base.

Why not? Lind can pretty much only play first base. Lobaton can only catch. Norris can do either and provides a bench bat against LHP. Who else are you going to keep on the bench? Michael Taylor?

[NJ Ave]

Of course, by their nature, stable situations with the ability to win rarely open

Right, would certainly depend on the situation. Look at Beane, Moore, Huntington for example.

[Slateman]

10 million in 2017, 11 in 2018.