The Bryce Harper Compendium (2016)

[PC]

Look at the link that HS posted for payrolls.  If you click on the drop down for the year, the Nationals have $71M committed for 2018, the Yankees, $104M.   For 2019, they both have $55M committed.   And next year is a dumpster fire for free agents.

[Slateman]

Look at the link that HS posted for payrolls.  If you click on the drop down for the year, the Nationals have $71M committed for 2018, the Yankees, $104M.   For 2019, they both have $55M committed.   And next year is a dumpster fire for free agents.

And the Yankees are willing to pay the luxury tax. The Nationals are not.

[varoadking]

And the Yankees are willing to pay the luxury tax Harper. The Nationals are not.

[PC]

And the Yankees are willing to pay the luxury tax.

The new Steinbrenners aren't.

[Slateman]

The new Steinbrenners aren't.

They will once they get under it fora season and reset. Harper is going to the Yankees. Boras wants to get paid, Harper wants to win, and he wants a legacy. The Nationals cannot provide any of that.

[UMDNats]

The new Steinbrenners aren't.

They could have gotten pretty close to under it when Cano left after 2013 but instead signed McCann, Beltran, Ellsbury and Tanaka. They'll try to under the next CBA when the luxury tax expands to over $200 million.

[HalfSmokes]

The new Steinbrenners aren't.

I'll believe the lerners are more willing to spend than the steinbrenners once the nats payroll overtakes the Yankees - I wonder when that will be

[welch]

They could have gotten pretty close to under it when Cano left after 2013 but instead signed McCann, Beltran, Ellsbury and Tanaka. They'll try to under the next CBA when the luxury tax expands to over $200 million.

It's not just the luxury tax, whether the Yankees must pay it or not. Probably a bigger issue: the Yankees now have competition from the Mets. Have not had much competition since the early '90s, when both teams were mediocre. The Mets went to the World Series, the Mets have four good starters, the Mets have a few hitters. About two years ago, the only zip-code with a majority of Met fans was a spot in Flushing Meadow Park. That's changing.

It's not clear that the Yankees can wait while Texeira and ARod and other contracts drop away.

[mitlen]

It's not just the luxury tax, whether the Yankees must pay it or not. Probably a bigger issue: the Yankees now have competition from the Mets. Have not had much competition since the early '90s, when both teams were mediocre. The Mets went to the World Series, the Mets have four good starters, the Mets have a few hitters. About two years ago, the only zip-code with a majority of Met fans was a spot in Flushing Meadow Park. That's changing.

It's not clear that the Yankees can wait while Texeira and ARod and other contracts drop away.

What defines "competition"?   What's the competiton for?      Isn't NYC big enough to take care of both of them?   Is it more bragging rights and gear?

As an outsider and a person who's in awe of the Apple market, I would think that there's plenty to go around.

[HalfSmokes]

What defines "competition"?   What's the competiton for?      Isn't NYC big enough to take care of both of them?   Is it more bragging rights and gear?

As an outsider and a person who's in awe of the Apple market, I would think that there's plenty to go around.

Everyone in my wife's family (nyc and northern nj) is one or the other and despises the other team - same with jets Giants

[varoadking]

Everyone in my wife's family (nyc and northern nj) is one or the other and despises the other team - same with jets Giants

Same is true in Chicago with the White Sox and Cubs...

[GburgNatsFan]

Absolutely.

Everyone in my wife's family (nyc and northern nj) is one or the other and despises the other team - same with jets Giants

[welch]

What defines "competition"?   What's the competiton for?      Isn't NYC big enough to take care of both of them?   Is it more bragging rights and gear?

As an outsider and a person who's in awe of the Apple market, I would think that there's plenty to go around.

If you can get about 90% of baseball fans in the NY area, you want all 90%...not just 50% or 60%. Yes, it's a big market, but the Yankees want every kid to demand a Yankees hat, tee-shirt, anything else they can sell. They want callers to pepper WFAN with calls about the Yankees. They liked it best when people forgot the Mets existed.

[Ray D]

There isn't any competition between the Yankees and Mets in the business sense of the word - they are not competing for fans. If you are a fan of the Yankees you don't switch because the Yankees aren't doing well and the Mets are, or vice versa.   They may be competing for bragging rights. I'm sure the players don't care about that; they owners might, I suppose.

[welch]

There isn't any competition between the Yankees and Mets in the business sense of the word - they are not competing for fans. If you are a fan of the Yankees you don't switch because the Yankees aren't doing well and the Mets are, or vice versa.   They may be competing for bragging rights. I'm sure the players don't care about that; they owners might, I suppose.

It's a little bit of bragging rights, but many fans will shift if one team is consistently good ("27 Time World Champion" it says on the stadium) and the other is consistently mediocre or worse. I'm not sure how much a team makes from ticket sales, how much from merchandising. I think broadcast revenues are fixed when a team signs a contract with a network ( ignoring MASN and the Nats). It probably means something when NYC is flooded with "Yankee-ness" while only a few die-hard fans pay attention to the Mets. That began to turn last season.

[whytev]

This is a silly breakaway argument that misses the premise: Bryce's dad loves the Yankees, Bryce loves his dad. Automatic edge. Impossible to know how much it matters.

[Dave301]

Cool pic.

[houston-nat]

Who's on the left?

[PC]

Who's on the left?

I'm sure you're kidding but I don't know you're kidding.  More people would say who's that on the right than who's that on the left.

[BrandonK]

Harp > Steph

[Slateman]

Who's on the left?

Steph Curry

[Ray D]

I'm sure you're kidding but I don't know you're kidding.  More people would say who's that on the right than who's that on the left.

There are some here who pay no attention at  all to basketball.  Like me.  I had to look up Seth Curry to see who he was.

[Natsinpwc]

There are some here who pay no attention at  all to basketball.  Like me.  I had to look up Seth Curry to see who he was.

Seth Curry is Steph Curry's brother.

[houston-nat]

Steph Curry

Oh! Duh. I just didn't recognize him. I only watch NBA via bars and highlight clips so this is the first time I've seen his face bigger than an inch on my screen.

[Truconfidence]

I'm sure you're kidding but I don't know you're kidding.  More people would say who's that on the right than who's that on the left.

Id say Stephs Q rating is way above Harps.