Author Topic: The ZDK Trade Proposal Extravaganza Thread To End All Threads #OhYeah (Read 74830 times)

IanRubbish · « **Reply #700 on:** February 11, 2026, 01:33:54 pm »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on February 11, 2026, 11:55:31 am

On our end, I've thought a Ruiz for Yoshida swap make sense .

Ruiz has negative value to any team trying to win. He's not qualified to be a backup catcher, and the Red Sox know that. If he were DFA'd and still wanted to play, he might get a minor league deal with someone, but no one is even trading a bad contract to get him.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #701 on:** February 11, 2026, 01:46:01 pm »

Quote from: IanRubbish on February 11, 2026, 01:33:54 pm

Ruiz has negative value to any team trying to win. He's not qualified to be a backup catcher, and the Red Sox know that. If he were DFA'd and still wanted to play, he might get a minor league deal with someone, but no one is even trading a bad contract to get him.

I keep on saying that he can lower the Sox CBT hit by $12 million this year when they are right up against the 2nd threshold. $12 million saved is enough to pay for Paredes's hit. Even if they think he's as bad as you think he is (and I'm not quite questioning that), they come out ahead doing the deal and then DFA'ng him before he sets foot in Fort Myers. Bigger problem is on the Nats end is whether they could use Yoshida for a couple of years and whether the accelerated payment stream (and slight difference in the net present value of the payout stream) is enough to kill it. The Sox have just demonstrated in the Hicks deal they are willing to put in a pretty good prospect to cut the CBT hit. They'd have to wrap Yoshida with one to pull this off.

IanRubbish · « **Reply #702 on:** February 11, 2026, 05:00:22 pm »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on February 11, 2026, 01:46:01 pm

I keep on saying that he can lower the Sox CBT hit by $12 million this year when they are right up against the 2nd threshold. $12 million saved is enough to pay for Paredes's hit.

I can't see the Lerners, who love deferrals, taking the cash flow hit this year. Agree that it could be an interesting way to trade bad contracts, but they wouldn't do this even if it made sense.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #703 on:** February 11, 2026, 05:27:43 pm »

Quote from: IanRubbish on February 11, 2026, 05:00:22 pm

I can't see the Lerners, who love deferrals, taking the cash flow hit this year. Agree that it could be an interesting way to trade bad contracts, but they wouldn't do this even if it made sense.

Unfortunately, I agree that it'd be a surprise move if they did it. I just look at that Hicks deal and wonder what sort of value the Sox would attach to lowering their CBT hit. (By the way, they are in the repeater tax brackets, so their cash in 2026 savings on Ruiz for Yoshida also includes 32% or so tax on the amount over the first threshold, which is would be another $4 million on top of the $12 million or so).

Slateman · « **Reply #704 on:** February 12, 2026, 06:44:02 am »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on February 11, 2026, 05:27:43 pm

Unfortunately, I agree that it'd be a surprise move if they did it. I just look at that Hicks deal and wonder what sort of value the Sox would attach to lowering their CBT hit. (By the way, they are in the repeater tax brackets, so their cash in 2026 savings on Ruiz for Yoshida also includes 32% or so tax on the amount over the first threshold, which is would be another $4 million on top of the $12 million or so).

Would have been huge if as part of a CJ Abrams deal. Oh well.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #705 on:** February 12, 2026, 10:07:38 am »

Quote from: Slateman on February 12, 2026, 06:44:02 am

Would have been huge if as part of a CJ Abrams deal. Oh well.

I think it might resurface in a couple months once Casas is back and if they think they could use even more offense. Mayer doesn't hit, Story hurt, Durbin has a bad start ...

aspenbubba · « **Reply #706 on:** February 12, 2026, 04:42:29 pm »

Castellanos released by the Phils. There is no reason why we shouldn't pick him up. He has admitted some mistakes and apologized. He will only cosr the league minimum. He could play 1B and if he doesn't fit the new culture release him. If we were negotiating with Ryhs Hopkins I would rather have Nick and trade him at the deadline.

imref · « **Reply #707 on:** February 12, 2026, 04:57:13 pm »

Quote from: aspenbubba on February 12, 2026, 04:42:29 pm

Castellanos released by the Phils. There is no reason why we shouldn't pick him up. He has admitted some mistakes and apologized. He will only cosr the league minimum. He could play 1B and if he doesn't fit the new culture release him. If we were negotiating with Ryhs Hopkins I would rather have Nick and trade him at the deadline.

Dan Kolko is way to normal and scandal free to have Castellanos on this team.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #708 on:** February 12, 2026, 08:15:06 pm »

Quote from: aspenbubba on February 12, 2026, 04:42:29 pm

Castellanos released by the Phils. There is no reason why we shouldn't pick him up. He has admitted some mistakes and apologized. He will only cosr the league minimum. He could play 1B and if he doesn't fit the new culture release him. If we were negotiating with Ryhs Hopkins I would rather have Nick and trade him at the deadline.

Castellanos will have his pick of spots interested in him if he clears waivers and if Philly doesn't find a taker in trade before that. Nobody will claim him on waivers because they'd be stuck with his contract. Trade might be possible if Philly eats some of his cost and sweetens things by attaching a prospect to him.

Slateman · « **Reply #709 on:** February 12, 2026, 08:42:19 pm »

Quote from: aspenbubba on February 12, 2026, 04:42:29 pm

Castellanos released by the Phils. There is no reason why we shouldn't pick him up. He has admitted some mistakes and apologized. He will only cosr the league minimum. He could play 1B and if he doesn't fit the new culture release him. If we were negotiating with Ryhs Hopkins I would rather have Nick and trade him at the deadline.

Yea there are. Hes a 90 wRC+ that was a big enough clubhouse issue to get benched . There's no reason he should be taking at bats away from anyone on this team.

blue911 · « **Reply #710 on:** February 12, 2026, 11:08:24 pm »

Quote from: aspenbubba on February 12, 2026, 04:42:29 pm

Castellanos released by the Phils. There is no reason why we shouldn't pick him up. He has admitted some mistakes and apologized. He will only cosr the league minimum. He could play 1B and if he doesn't fit the new culture release him. If we were negotiating with Ryhs Hopkins I would rather have Nick and trade him at the deadline.

He’s another Rendon. Too many outside issues to be around young players. In other words he is such an jerk that the Phillies paid him $20M to freak right off.

zimm_da_kid · « **Reply #711 on:** April 12, 2026, 12:00:51 am »

Abrams is going at the deadline. 2.5 years of control with his typical hot start (+hopefully a little improvement) should net something significant.

I'd look to the Pirates and Yankees. Pirates should be looking to maximize their window with griffin, skenes, and the rest of their rotation while it's cheap. They need bats.

Yankees have more money at their disposal, but their offense is lagging behind their pitching.

NYY: Lagrange, Kilby, Hess

PIT: Hernandez, Florentino, and kelly/dotel

zimm_da_kid · « **Reply #712 on:** April 25, 2026, 02:12:14 am »

CJ for tolle, valera, and soto. I'd settle for witherspoon, valerla, soto, gonsales, and phillips

imref · « **Reply #713 on:** April 25, 2026, 10:08:09 am »

Quote from: zimm_da_kid on April 25, 2026, 02:12:14 am

CJ for tolle, valera, and soto. I'd settle for witherspoon, valerla, soto, gonsales, and phillips

I'm not sure CJ is enough for Tolle after his debut.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #714 on:** April 25, 2026, 10:38:58 am »

My guess is the Sox will be sellers at this point.

Slateman · « **Reply #715 on:** April 25, 2026, 01:23:41 pm »

Id take Tolle straight up for CJ. But Im with JCA, the Red Sox are likely sellers.

zimm_da_kid · « **Reply #716 on:** April 25, 2026, 02:02:40 pm »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on April 25, 2026, 10:38:58 am

My guess is the Sox will be sellers at this point.

All their starters outside of early have been meh to terrible so far. Crochet and Suarez will find it soon.

Offensively, Duran, story, and Anthony will improve

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #717 on:** April 25, 2026, 02:14:38 pm »

I wonder a little about Crochet. He threw a lot more innings last year than in the past. I also have no faith in Suarez. Dombo didn't try to sign him and his velo has dropped 2 straight seasons.

zimm_da_kid · « **Reply #718 on:** April 25, 2026, 03:34:57 pm »

Problem with the Sox is that they don’t have much in the way of valuable rentals they could trade. They ain’t giving up on crochet or Suarez yet. I’m sure Chapman could get something.

Slateman · « **Reply #719 on:** April 25, 2026, 03:40:11 pm »

Quote from: zimm_da_kid on April 25, 2026, 02:02:40 pm

All their starters outside of early have been meh to terrible so far. Crochet and Suarez will find it soon.

Offensively, Duran, story, and Anthony will improve

I just think its too much to overcome, at this point

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #720 on:** April 25, 2026, 03:43:52 pm »

Quote from: zimm_da_kid on April 25, 2026, 03:34:57 pm

Problem with the Sox is that they don’t have much in the way of valuable rentals they could trade. They ain’t giving up on crochet or Suarez yet. I’m sure Chapman could get something.

Chapman. Contreras and/or Casas if they come back OK. Maybe Weissert or Coulombe, too.

zimm_da_kid · « **Reply #721 on:** August 26, 2026, 04:40:47 pm »

Will be posting my early offseason plan soon

Slateman · « **Reply #722 on:** August 27, 2026, 11:24:47 am »

Quote from: zimm_da_kid on August 26, 2026, 04:40:47 pm

Will be posting my early offseason plan soon

Is this the patented 5 way trade where we end up with Cam Schlitter, Jacob Miz, and Mason Miller?

zimm_da_kid · « **Reply #723 on:** August 27, 2026, 01:38:25 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on August 27, 2026, 11:24:47 am

Is this the patented 5 way trade where we end up with Cam Schlitter, Jacob Miz, and Mason Miller?

More trading for prospects through a series of trades involving Abrams, cavalli, and ruiz