The ZDK Trade Proposal Extravaganza Thread To End All Threads #OhYeah

[zimm_da_kid]

The new edition

Vs rightys
CF Buxton
LF Inciarte
3B Rendon
RF Harper
C   Lucroy
1B Zimmerman
2B Turner
SS Espinosa

Vs lefties
CF Buxton
2B Turner
3B Rendon
RF Harper
C   Lucroy
1B Zimmerman
SS Espi
LF Inciarte

1. Scherzer
2. Strasburg
3. Ross
4. Giolito
5. Berrios

Cole, Difo, Reetz--> Lucroy

Gio, Storen, Ramos, Fedde -> Buxton, Berrios

Voth, Franco, Severino, Wiseman-> Inciarte

Werth--> CJ Wilson

[KnorrForYourMoney]

Nah

[UMDNats]

how can we get carlos correa without giving up gio or turner?

storen, gonzalez, fedde and robles? seems fair

[Slateman]

Obviously, Harper to the Dodgers for Urias, Seager, De Leon, and Alex Verdugo

[NatsAllThe Way]

I would do this, maybe giving up too much though?  Something tells me Giolito will bust:

http://www.purplerow.com/2015/12/20/10627864/colorado-rockies-rumors-dj-lemahieu-washington-nationals-brandon-phillips-2b-trade

[Slateman]

I would do this, maybe giving up too much though?  Something tells me Giolito will bust:

http://www.purplerow.com/2015/12/20/10627864/colorado-rockies-rumors-dj-lemahieu-washington-nationals-brandon-phillips-2b-trade

That is the ultimate win this season move, because after the 2016 season, the Nationals would have no pitching and no payroll to add anyone.

[UMDNats]

DJ LeMaheiu doesn't really do anything for me.

[madj55]

I wouldn't do that trade. Gonna need Giolito after this season.

[UMDNats]

The only way I'm dealing Giolito is if I'm getting a young-ish gamechanger at a position of need, like center field. He's vital to the replacing Strasburg and Zimmermann plan.

[BrandonK]

Only give up Giolito only if Arenado is involved.

[Mr Clean]

Only give up Giolito only if Arenado is involved.

Yep. And Colorado destroys the careers of pitchers.

[Mr Clean]

I would do this, maybe giving up too much though?  Something tells me Giolito will bust:

http://www.purplerow.com/2015/12/20/10627864/colorado-rockies-rumors-dj-lemahieu-washington-nationals-brandon-phillips-2b-trade

Is the writer ZDK?

[BrandonK]

Yep. And Colorado destroys the careers of pitchers.

Counterpoint: they've never had any good pitchers/pitching prospects. Will be interesting to see what happens to Jon Gray and Hoffman.

Edit: Jimenez, Hampton, and de la Rosa were just guys -- Jimenez being the best of 'em. I just don't think they've ever had an elite talent. Gray and Hoffman could be.

[Elvir Ovcina]

Counterpoint: they've never had any good pitchers/pitching prospects. Will be interesting to see what happens to Jon Gray and Hoffman.

Edit: Jimenez, Hampton, and de la Rosa were just guys -- Jimenez being the best of 'em. I just don't think they've ever had an elite talent. Gray and Hoffman could be.

2010 Jimenez was a hell of a lot more than just a guy.  He had some of the best stuff I've ever seen in person.

[BrandonK]

2010 Jimenez was a hell of a lot more than just a guy.  He had some of the best stuff I've ever seen in person.

You're right, he did have great stuff. Probably why he's ended up playing multiple seasons after the Rox.

[BrandonK]

He couldn't put it together consistently, and still hasn't. May be coaching, may be talent. Who knows?

I'd still say there isn't enough evidence to say CO wrecks pitchers.

[BrandonK]

Sign Kenta, trade for Blackmon and Profar, profit.

Edit: Gotta get rid of Paps and Storen too!

[zimm_da_kid]

Sign Kazmir 3 yr/$42M

Werth, Storen, Gio, cash --> Profar, Kela, Tate

Fedde, Lopez, Difo, Franco --> CarGo

Ross --> Buxton, Burdi

Cut Papelbon

Roll with

Scherzer
Strasburg
Kazmir
Roark
Giolito

Kela, Rivero, Gott, Petit, Perez, Treinen, Kelley

CF Buxton
2B Profar
3B Rendon
RF Harper
1B Zimmerman
LF CarGo
SS Espi/Turner
C   Ramos

Long term:  in two years, trade Rendon, Robles, and all our top prospects for Trout

[imref]

Werth, Storen, Gio, cash --> Profar, Kela, Tate

Wouldn't you also have to promise the Rangers' GM a job as part of that deal for when he gets fired after making it?  Ditto for the Ross for Buxton trade.

[Elvir Ovcina]

Wouldn't you also have to promise the Rangers' GM a job as part of that deal for when he gets fired after making it?  Ditto for the Ross for Buxton trade.

Fired? Those GMs would be lucky to make it out of their offices alive!

[zimm_da_kid]

Sign Kazmir 3 yr/$42M w/$15M vest opt.

Gio, Storen, Cole-> Gallo, Kela

Voth, Franco, Wilson -> Shields, $21M

Rendon, Ross, CarGo--> Angels
Fedde, Lopez, PTBNL-->Rockies
Trout, Wilson -->Nats

Cut Papelbon

LF Werth
2B Murphy
CF Trout
RF Harper
1B Zimmerman
3B Gallo
SS Espi
C   Ramos

Bench: Taylor, den dekker, Lobaton, Robinson

1.  Scherzer
2. Strasburg
3. Kazmir
4. Shields
5. Roark/Giolto

Pen: Gott, Kela, Perez, Petit, Kelley, Rivero, Treinen

[JCA-CrystalCity]

There is only one word for this, and that is marklar.

[zimm_da_kid]

Honest question

I know dealing trout would be borderline unthinkable.  The Angels are trying to compete and a deal like this would fill a lot of their holes and free up additional payroll space for them
To sign a Cespedes, upton, Gordon, or whomever.  This deal would have to get something started wouldn't it?

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Honest question

I know dealing trout would be borderline unthinkable.  The Angels are trying to compete and a deal like this would fill a lot of their holes and free up additional payroll space for them
To sign a Cespedes, upton, Gordon, or whomever.  This deal would have to get something started wouldn't it?

I don't think so.  Trout is on a team favorable contract and there's a tendency of teams to put high end values on their own.  I have not looked at their rotation lately so I don't know who Ross replaces / displaces.  Both Rendon and Cargo have injury risk reputations, and Rendon is mostly just projectable upside rather than established like Trout.  I don't see this as getting you in the door. 

[zimm_da_kid]

Rendon, Revere, Roark, Ramos, Werth, Fedde, Difo -->Trout, Pujols

then they can DH Werth, play Revere and Calhoun on the corners, and sign Cespedes to man center.

Strasburg, Paps --> Tyson Ross, Austin Hedges 

SD is one of the teams Paps can be traded to w/o his permission.

Then we'll sign Chris Davis

2B Murphy
CF Trout
RF Harper
1B Pujols
3B/LF Davis
3B/LF Zimm
SS Espi
C Hedges

When Turner is ready for leadoff he takes Espi's slot and moves to the 1 spot with everyone else moving down 1 in the order.