Author Topic: The ZDK Trade Proposal Extravaganza Thread To End All Threads #OhYeah (Read 57380 times)

Reds get -> Robles, Storen, Difo (-8.8 Million)
Nats get -> Chapman (+12.9 Million)

White Sox get -> Escobar (-7 Million)
Nats get -> Nate Jones (+900 Thousand)

Cubs get -> Papelbon +8 Million (-3 Million)
Nats get -> Tommy La Stella (+500 Thousand)

Nats sign OF Gerardo Parra (3 yrs, 27 Million, 9 Million AAV)
Nats sign RP Darren O'Day (4 years, 32 Million, 8 Million AAV)

That drops OD payroll to about 144 Million. I assumed that all the non-arb players are getting 600K which is high, but I figured I'd overshoot on error with how some players could be making more than 600K and most under. I'm guessing my number is high by a half Million or so.

varoadking · « **Reply #133 on:** November 27, 2015, 11:02:51 pm »

Quote from: Mattionals on November 27, 2015, 10:19:15 pm

Reds get -> Robles, Storen, Difo (-8.8 Million)
Nats get -> Chapman (+12.9 Million)

White Sox get -> Escobar (-7 Million)
Nats get -> Nate Jones (+900 Thousand)

Cubs get -> Papelbon +8 Million (-3 Million)
Nats get -> Tommy La Stella (+500 Thousand)

Nats sign OF Gerardo Parra (3 yrs, 27 Million, 9 Million AAV)
Nats sign RP Darren O'Day (4 years, 32 Million, 8 Million AAV)

That drops OD payroll to about 144 Million. I assumed that all the non-arb players are getting 600K which is high, but I figured I'd overshoot on error with how some players could be making more than 600K and most under. I'm guessing my number is high by a half Million or so.

I don't understand the attraction to Parra. Don't we have something similar on the bench in Robinson?

Vega · « **Reply #134 on:** November 27, 2015, 11:47:38 pm »

Quote from: varoadking on November 27, 2015, 11:02:51 pm

I don't understand the attraction to Parra. Don't we have something similar on the bench in Robinson?

I could explain why he makes sense from a roster construction perspective, but to make it simpler, he's an ex-Diamondback.

Mattionals · « **Reply #135 on:** November 27, 2015, 11:55:42 pm »

Quote from: varoadking on November 27, 2015, 11:02:51 pm

I don't understand the attraction to Parra. Don't we have something similar on the bench in Robinson?

He gives a few ways to play 2016. Ultimately he sees lots of time either as the starting CF with Taylor in AAA, or he shuffles with Werthwhen he needs time off and comes in as a defensive replacement. I know we have MdD to do that as well, but I think it's another quality left handed bat that cqan actually play the OF unlike Robinson who is Zimm insurance.

varoadking · « **Reply #136 on:** November 28, 2015, 12:06:22 am »

Quote from: Mattionals on November 27, 2015, 11:55:42 pm

He gives a few ways to play 2016. Ultimately he sees lots of time either as the starting CF with Taylor in AAA, or he shuffles with Werthwhen he needs time off and comes in as a defensive replacement. I know we have MdD to do that as well, but I think it's another quality left handed bat that cqan actually play the OF unlike Robinson who is Zimm insurance.

I hear ya, but I think Rizzo is thinking like I am...that's a lot of jack for what is essentially a 4th outfielder. I think he'd try to re-sign Span before he went after Parra, assuming Span isn't broken...

Mattionals · « **Reply #137 on:** November 28, 2015, 12:21:13 am »

Quote from: varoadking on November 28, 2015, 12:06:22 am

I hear ya, but I think Rizzo is thinking like I am...that's a lot of jack for what is essentially a 4th outfielder. I think he'd try to re-sign Span before he went after Parra, assuming Span isn't broken...

I think Span will get more. MLBTR has him netting a 3 year 39 Million contract. I don't think the difference between Parra and Span is worth 4 more million a year. Heck, they have Asdrubal Cabrera going to the White Sox for 2 years 18 Million. It seems FA contracts are trending severely upward. Inflation must be pretty high, lol!

zimm_da_kid · « **Reply #138 on:** November 28, 2015, 01:19:21 am »

Den dekker will likely be as good, more content with a bench role, and under cheap control for more years

Slateman · « **Reply #139 on:** November 28, 2015, 07:29:08 pm »

Quote from: varoadking on November 27, 2015, 11:02:51 pm

I don't understand the attraction to Parra. Don't we have something similar on the bench in Robinson?

Parra can play the outfield

Mattionals · « **Reply #140 on:** November 29, 2015, 02:34:49 pm »

Here is a scenario without Parra, and with Zobrist:

Reds get -> Robles, Storen, Difo (-8.8 Million)
Nats get -> Chapman (+12.9 Million)

White Sox get -> Escobar (-7 Million)
Nats get -> Nate Jones (+900 Thousand)

Astros get -> Papelbon +8 Million (-3 Million)
Nats get -> Reymin Guduan (MiLB prospect, no impact to MLB roster)

Nats sign IF/OF Ben Zobrist (3 yrs, 51 Million, 17 Million AAV)
Nats sign RP Darren O'Day (4 years, 32 Million, 8 Million AAV)

That brings OD payroll to 151 Million or thereabouts.

Vega · « **Reply #141 on:** November 29, 2015, 03:50:02 pm »

There is no way Houston brings in a toxic guy like Papelbon.

zimm_da_kid · « **Reply #142 on:** November 30, 2015, 10:20:59 pm »

Shameless plug

Sign Scott Kazmir
Sign either Zack Greinke or David Price
Sign Darren O'Day

Gio, Pap, $5M
FOR
Andrew Miller, Brett Gardner

Rendon, Ross, Giolito, Gardner, Lopez, Escobar, Storen, Stevenson
FOR
Mike Trout, Garrett Richards

Cole, Difo, Taylor
FOR
Aroldis Chapman

Strasburg
FOR
Jose Bautista

Robles, Fedde, Franco, PTBNL
FOR
Dee Gordon

UMDNats · « **Reply #143 on:** November 30, 2015, 11:04:20 pm »

Quote from: zimm_da_kid on November 30, 2015, 10:20:59 pm

Gio, Pap, $5M
FOR
Andrew Miller, Brett Gardner

Why, exactly, would the Yankees do this? That is a horrendous trade. The Yankees want young, cost-controlled guys, not turds. Especially if they're giving up 2 cheap productive players.

Would love to hear your reasoning. Papelbon also goes against their entire organizational philosophy.

MarquisDeSade · « **Reply #144 on:** November 30, 2015, 11:21:17 pm »

Quote from: UMDNats on November 30, 2015, 11:04:20 pm

Why, exactly, would the Yankees do this? That is a horrendous trade. The Yankees want young, cost-controlled guys, not turds. Especially if they're giving up 2 cheap productive players.

Would love to hear your reasoning. Papelbon also goes against their entire organizational philosophy.

Doesn't this ZDK moron have his own crazy trade thread?

Ray D · « **Reply #145 on:** December 01, 2015, 10:04:32 am »

Quote from: UMDNats on November 30, 2015, 11:04:20 pm

Papelbon also goes against their entire organizational philosophy.

Just curious: what element of their philosophy is at play here?

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #146 on:** December 01, 2015, 10:59:59 am »

Quote from: UMDNats on November 30, 2015, 11:04:20 pm

Why, exactly, would the Yankees do this? That is a horrendous trade. The Yankees want young, cost-controlled guys, not turds. Especially if they're giving up 2 cheap productive players.

Would love to hear your reasoning. Papelbon also goes against their entire organizational philosophy.

Dude, you are talking to a wall here.

There might as well be a Geico ad about ZDK. "If you're ZDK, you come up with batcrap trade proposals. It's what ya do."

zimm_da_kid · « **Reply #147 on:** December 01, 2015, 02:43:17 pm »

Quote from: KnorrForYourMoney on December 01, 2015, 10:59:59 am

Dude, you are talking to a wall here.

There might as well be a Geico ad about ZDK. "If you're ZDK, you come up with batcrap trade proposals. It's what ya do."

Conventional trades are the ones that you hear rumors about, and then they don't actually happen

UMDNats · « **Reply #148 on:** December 01, 2015, 07:32:10 pm »

Quote from: Ray D on December 01, 2015, 10:04:32 am

Just curious: what element of their philosophy is at play here?

Makeup.

Ray D · « **Reply #149 on:** December 01, 2015, 08:17:10 pm »

Quote from: UMDNats on December 01, 2015, 07:32:10 pm

Makeup.

Papelbon is a lowlife scumbag douchebag. But it's not like the Yankees haven't had those. ARod, for example?