Author Topic: Fire Dusty Baker! (Read 107667 times)

R-Zim#11 · « **Reply #25:** November 02, 2015, 11:36:15 PM »

Quote from: Vega on November 02, 2015, 11:31:14 PM

That just isn't how manager contracts are designed these days, especially for a well-regarded guy like Black. Really bad move by Rizzo.

I don't think it's Rizzo. I think it's the Lerners not knowing what a manager is worth...

Vega · « **Reply #26:** November 02, 2015, 11:37:57 PM »

Quote from: pazzo83 on November 02, 2015, 11:31:59 PM

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 2m2 minutes ago
Black accepted #Nats job last week, but no idea it would pay less than $2 million over 2 years. http://usat.ly/1NnnF7w

WTF is wrong with this team? I think Coach O'Conner with UVA's baseball team make more than this (or at least he will now).

I think the bigger question is how Black didn't know the annual salary at first.

varoadking · « **Reply #27:** November 02, 2015, 11:41:04 PM »

Quote from: R-Zim#11 on November 02, 2015, 11:36:15 PM

I don't think it's Rizzo. I think it's the Lerners not knowing what a manager is worth...

They know...that's why they never published Williams salary.

IIRC, Riggleman was making $600K.

Williams had to be in that same general range...

varoadking · « **Reply #28:** November 02, 2015, 11:41:59 PM »

Quote from: Vega on November 02, 2015, 11:37:57 PM

I think the bigger question is how Black didn't know the annual salary at first.

Maybe he thought they meant $2MM/yr...not over 2 years...

pazzo83 · « **Reply #29:** November 02, 2015, 11:46:07 PM »

Baker could probably make more money on TBS/MLB Network than the pittance the Lerners are probably offering anyway.

skippy1999 · « **Reply #30:** November 02, 2015, 11:48:28 PM »

Quote from: pazzo83 on November 02, 2015, 11:46:07 PM

Baker could probably make more money on TBS/MLB Network than the pittance the Lerners are probably offering anyway.

then let him, please.

pazzo83 · « **Reply #31:** November 03, 2015, 01:08:57 AM »

They offered him a 1 year, $1.6mm deal.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/nationals/2015/11/02/dusty-baker-manager-washington-nationals-bud-black-matt-williams/75075236/?siteID=je6NUbpObpQ-0b0U74ItUtCXtB2tRknTpw

PC · « **Reply #32:** November 03, 2015, 01:13:42 AM »

Quote from: pazzo83 on November 03, 2015, 01:08:57 AM

They offered him a 1 year, $1.6mm deal.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/nationals/2015/11/02/dusty-baker-manager-washington-nationals-bud-black-matt-williams/75075236/?siteID=je6NUbpObpQ-0b0U74ItUtCXtB2tRknTpw

Who offers someone a new deal that makes them a lame duck right from the start?

R-Zim#11 · « **Reply #33:** November 03, 2015, 01:38:34 AM »

It's not Rizzo...

HattoriHanzo · « **Reply #34:** November 03, 2015, 01:50:08 AM »

This organization is a freaking joke. I'm embarrassed by this news. I still don't know why Martinez never got an interview. I feel that Baker will have short term success, but long term failure if hired.

BeltwayBaseball · « **Reply #35:** November 03, 2015, 02:42:25 AM »

Quote from: HattoriHanzo on November 03, 2015, 01:50:08 AM

This organization is a freaking joke. I'm embarrassed by this news. I still don't know why Martinez never got an interview. I feel that Baker will have short term success, but long term failure if hired.

Took the words out of my mouth. Absolute joke of an organization, I am embarrassed.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #36:** November 03, 2015, 06:05:04 AM »

Should have just hired Randy Knorr if they wanted to be cheap.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #37:** November 03, 2015, 07:42:36 AM »

Quote from: Natsinpwc on November 03, 2015, 06:05:04 AM

Should have just hired Randy Knorr if they wanted to be cheap.

There's still time

houston-nat · « **Reply #38:** November 03, 2015, 07:45:25 AM »

What the freak?????

houston-nat · « **Reply #39:** November 03, 2015, 07:46:50 AM »

God, this is humiliating.

varoadking · « **Reply #40:** November 03, 2015, 08:05:28 AM »

The ‪#‎Nats‬ have named Dusty Baker as manager!

http://curlyw.mlblogs.com/2015/11/03/nationals-name-dusty-baker-manager/?partnerId=as_was_20151103_54832216&adbid=10153557309295189&adbpl=fb&adbpr=48589510188

houston-nat · « **Reply #41:** November 03, 2015, 08:08:48 AM »

This is the most embarrassing day in franchise history since the Esmailyn Gonzalez scandal broke.

Elvir Ovcina · « **Reply #42:** November 03, 2015, 08:18:16 AM »

They would have been better leaving the position vacant than hiring Baker. I'd be royally pissed if I'd actually renewed my tickets, but instead I will just point and laugh. What an utterly stupid move. Why don't they hire Desmond to be the hitting coach, too?

BigMeech · « **Reply #43:** November 03, 2015, 08:25:09 AM »

Bloody hell m8s.

imref · « **Reply #44:** November 03, 2015, 08:28:12 AM »

I wonder if rizzo resigns. I suspect this is a Lerner issue more so than a Rizzo issue.

Traded For Mclain · « **Reply #45:** November 03, 2015, 08:30:22 AM »

Utter incompetence, very redskinesque. I'm SO glad I didn't renew my season ticket package.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #46:** November 03, 2015, 08:36:24 AM »

Quote from: houston-nat on November 03, 2015, 08:08:48 AM

This is the most embarrassing day in franchise history since the Esmailyn Gonzalez scandal broke.

+1.

this team had the best record in the NL twice in the last 4 years but lost in the division series because of poor management of the pitching staff and poor decisions on the bullpen. What has Baker done over his entire managing career to give the Nationals confidence he can address this problem?

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #47:** November 03, 2015, 08:44:53 AM »

Well, expect Strasburg and Scherzer to throw 230 innings each next year. Maybe that is a good thing if you think this team has a very short horizon and you want to go full Mets now. But you can bet that Scherzer gets a sore arm before the end of his contract because there is no way Dusty is going to force Scherzer to save bullets and rest when he needs to.

He managed Kent and Bonds. Maybe he can manage Papelbon and Bryce.

Speaking of Bryce, this crud about him being able manage superstars makes me wonder if this guy will become Bryce binky.

_sturt_ · « **Reply #48:** November 03, 2015, 09:14:59 AM »

I'm with those who had Dusty at the very bottom of my list, so yeah, I'm also with those who this morning are pretty discouraged by this whole turn of events. I dare say we're a majority. For all of the incredibly good feelings toward the Lerners last off-season, I think the pendulum has swung to the other extreme.

imref · « **Reply #49:** November 03, 2015, 09:15:38 AM »

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Bob Nightengale @BNightengale
Dusty Baker's phone has been ringing off the hook with coaches wanting to join his staff with #Nats, so could be star-studded group