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Offline skippy1999

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #2000: September 16, 2015, 02:58:48 PM »
There is precedent.   ARod defied Boras and went back to the Yankees on his own after Boras had rejected the Yankee's offer. 

Jered Weaver too:

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/6889644/jered-weaver-bucks-scott-boras-advice-new-los-angeles-angels-deal


 I don't buy the nonsense that players will only do what Boras tells them too:  if he wants to sign an extension and stay, he will; if he wants to wait to cash in on free agency, he will.  I think Boras is a good boogeyman for players to hide behind when they want to chase the dollars. 


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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #2001: September 16, 2015, 03:03:59 PM »
Bryce Harper finally has an MVP season and makes it impossible to fire Matt Williams

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« Reply #2002: September 16, 2015, 03:15:28 PM »
  I think Boras is a good boogeyman for players to hide behind when they want to chase the dollars. 

And that's probably what's going on in Harper's case. You don't sign with an agent unless you buy-in to his philosophy.

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« Reply #2003: September 16, 2015, 03:17:33 PM »
And I agree, he is not contractually bound to do what Boras tells him to do.   But I'd bet that there was a verbal agreement. 

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« Reply #2004: September 16, 2015, 05:50:22 PM »
i saw it noted earlier that if Harper wins the MVP and Bryant wins the RoY, it would be the first time that the MVP was younger than the RoY.

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« Reply #2005: September 16, 2015, 07:42:44 PM »
i saw it noted earlier that if Harper wins the MVP and Bryant wins the RoY, it would be the first time that the MVP was younger than the RoY.

I think that's true no matter who wins ROY.

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« Reply #2006: September 16, 2015, 09:16:07 PM »
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« Reply #2007: September 16, 2015, 09:54:21 PM »
Harper has to win the MVP, I mean I couldn't care less about individual awards, but he has been downright ridiculous

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« Reply #2008: September 16, 2015, 10:00:36 PM »
I think that's true no matter who wins ROY.

Not if Robinson wins it. :-)

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« Reply #2009: September 16, 2015, 10:01:44 PM »
Harper could be a 10 war player this year. Last time I checked he was at 9.5.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #2010: September 16, 2015, 10:12:53 PM »
i saw it noted earlier that if Harper wins the MVP and Bryant wins the RoY, it would be the first time that the MVP was younger than the RoY.

1955 AL MVP is the odd one. Should have been Al Kaline, who finished second to Yogi Berra. Both had 27 homers, but Kaline led the AL with a .340 average while Yogi hit .272. Kaline's OPS was .967; Yogi had .819. If the voting had been accurate, Kaline would have been MVP. He was 20 years old. Herb Score was AL ROY, at 22 years old.


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« Reply #2013: September 17, 2015, 09:10:07 AM »
As great as Harper has been, he was still terrible when we needed him the most: that Mets series. What was he 0-8?

This might be mindfacting but I feel like a lot of his #s this year have been fairly meaningless, in the sense that they didn't really impact our chances of winning/losing the game. I mean he could have not hit any homers last night and we still would have won. On the flip side, late in close games with men on base he regularly didn't come through. Again, could be mindfacting. Maybe PC can dig up the #s.

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« Reply #2014: September 17, 2015, 09:16:03 AM »
I think that's true no matter who wins ROY.

Trivia question:  Who was the last Roy to win the RoY?

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #2015: September 17, 2015, 09:24:22 AM »
Trivia question:  Who was the last Roy to win the RoY?

Roy Sievers. The first RoY.

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« Reply #2016: September 17, 2015, 10:06:58 AM »
As great as Harper has been, he was still terrible when we needed him the most: that Mets series. What was he 0-8?

This might be mindfacting but I feel like a lot of his #s this year have been fairly meaningless, in the sense that they didn't really impact our chances of winning/losing the game. I mean he could have not hit any homers last night and we still would have won. On the flip side, late in close games with men on base he regularly didn't come through. Again, could be mindfacting. Maybe PC can dig up the #s.

That's a ridiculous post.   Ignoring that "clutch" is mostly a myth based on people observing patterns based on small sample sizes, Bryce has definitely had his share of coming through at big moments.  He did hit 2 HR in game 3 of the Mets series, was by far the best player in the playoffs last year, and has had walkoffs and game winning hits and HRs this year.  Also, keep in mind that no one is pitching to him when the game is on the line, and his walks are leading to big runs when the team can capitalize on them (which has happened sometimes!).   

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #2017: September 17, 2015, 10:21:35 AM »
That's a ridiculous post.   Ignoring that "clutch" is mostly a myth based on people observing patterns based on small sample sizes, Bryce has definitely had his share of coming through at big moments.  He did hit 2 HR in game 3 of the Mets series, was by far the best player in the playoffs last year, and has had walkoffs and game winning hits and HRs this year.  Also, keep in mind that no one is pitching to him when the game is on the line, and his walks are leading to big runs when the team can capitalize on them (which has happened sometimes!).
This, plus the fact that his efforts this year have given the Nats leads in early-to-middle innings, thus not needing anyone to come through in the "clutch". 

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #2018: September 17, 2015, 10:22:36 AM »
As great as Harper has been, he was still terrible when we needed him the most: that Mets series. What was he 0-8?

This might be mindfacting but I feel like a lot of his #s this year have been fairly meaningless, in the sense that they didn't really impact our chances of winning/losing the game. I mean he could have not hit any homers last night and we still would have won. On the flip side, late in close games with men on base he regularly didn't come through. Again, could be mindfacting. Maybe PC can dig up the #s.
He can't be great every game.  And he wasn't the one responsible for blowing those leads in the first two games of that series. 

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« Reply #2019: September 17, 2015, 10:44:16 AM »
Yes, but he didn't use his no-need-for-clutchiness to influence the bullpen, so he's not clutch at all.

This, plus the fact that his efforts this year have given the Nats leads in early-to-middle innings, thus not needing anyone to come through in the "clutch".

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« Reply #2020: September 17, 2015, 10:45:41 AM »
As great as Harper has been, he was still terrible when we needed him the most: that Mets series. What was he 0-8?

This might be mindfacting but I feel like a lot of his #s this year have been fairly meaningless, in the sense that they didn't really impact our chances of winning/losing the game. I mean he could have not hit any homers last night and we still would have won. On the flip side, late in close games with men on base he regularly didn't come through. Again, could be mindfacting. Maybe PC can dig up the #s.

No, just no.  You are mindfacting to the nth degree.  Ian is the King of meaningless hits and hr's, not Bryce.  Bryce has been there when we've needed him pretty much every single game all season long, that's why I gave him a pass on the Mets series.  Even great hitters go cold for a short spell; sadly he did in those games but those losses were NOT on him and he has been the absolute MVP of this team and whole flippin' league, but sadly his team wasted his MVP season :evil:

Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #2021: September 17, 2015, 10:53:43 AM »
As great as Harper has been, he was still terrible when we needed him the most: that Mets series. What was he 0-8?

This might be mindfacting but I feel like a lot of his #s this year have been fairly meaningless, in the sense that they didn't really impact our chances of winning/losing the game. I mean he could have not hit any homers last night and we still would have won. On the flip side, late in close games with men on base he regularly didn't come through. Again, could be mindfacting. Maybe PC can dig up the #s.
cespedes should be the mvp

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #2022: September 17, 2015, 10:59:43 AM »
Lol as cespedes being the mvp

It's hilarious that that's even a thing ..

Good gawd ...

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« Reply #2023: September 17, 2015, 11:04:42 AM »
He can't be great every game.  And he wasn't the one responsible for blowing those leads in the first two games of that series. 

I would like to replay the 7th inning of game 2 with Bryce pitching the inning.  I'd bet $100 we'd have won.

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« Reply #2024: September 17, 2015, 11:12:54 AM »
Lol as cespedes being the mvp

It's hilarious that that's even a thing ..

Good gawd ...

The only good outcome of this "Cespedes for MVP" nonsense would be if they immediately revoked the voting credential of any media person stupid enough to vote for him.

It's a perfect opportunity to cull the idiots out of the voting pool.