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Which Max year was better, 2016 or 2017? (reply 865 has some comparitive stats)

2016 - better record, more innings, more Ks
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2017 - better ERA, WHIP, FIP; personal best ERA relative to league; fewer HRs per fly, per IP
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Offline tomterp

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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #100: July 12, 2015, 08:14:27 PM »
Quote from: KnorrForYourMoney on July 12, 2015, 07:18:14 PM
I've seen the greatness of Astacio, O'Connor, and Bascik, and Scherzer looks better than them too.  Damn.

Mike pitched for us in 2006 and 2008 - then he pitched 6.2 for the Mets in 2011 giving up 5 hits, 3 walks but only 2 runs.  After that he hung around the minors till 2013, last pitching for Rochester.  Nice guy, I think his mom used to post here.  Sure didn't throw very hard though.  Pitched in college for GW.
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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #101: July 12, 2015, 08:19:09 PM »
Steve Rogers, Bill Lee, Dennis Martinez, . . .
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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #102: July 12, 2015, 08:21:44 PM »
Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on July 12, 2015, 08:06:18 PM
he may end up the 3d best pitcher to ever pitch for the franchise, behind the Big Unit and Pedro.

:couch:

Big Unit only achieved greatness after.
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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #103: July 12, 2015, 08:39:30 PM »
Quote from: whytev on July 12, 2015, 08:21:44 PM
Big Unit only achieved greatness after.
right.  Pedro did get a Cy with the franchise.
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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #104: July 18, 2015, 01:26:51 AM »
I love him :lol:

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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #105: July 25, 2015, 11:35:45 AM »
Quote from: skippy1999 on July 18, 2015, 01:26:51 AM
I love him :lol:

When he's good...he's really good.  When he's bad...he's really bad.

Kinda like Roark...

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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #106: July 25, 2015, 12:03:05 PM »
Quote from: varoadking on July 25, 2015, 11:35:45 AM
When he's good...he's really good.  When he's bad...he's really bad.




And he was REALLY bad last night.  Bad 3 of his last four starts.  Might have been pitcher of the month June, but he's making a case for bum of the month July.

And how about our (projected) Historically Great Starting Rotation.  It's come to the point where there isn't a single current starter that I'm comfortable with, that I am confident we'll win because he's pitching.   Each one is a unique case, but with Scherzer, with the money we're spending, we expected more.
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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #107: July 25, 2015, 12:55:50 PM »
Quote from: varoadking on July 25, 2015, 11:35:45 AM
When he's good...he's really good.  When he's bad...he's really bad.

Kinda like Roark...



Yea, seems like the more charming I find him the worse he pitches  :?

But Roark used to be mister consistency until Williams started jerking him around so I give him more of a pass than our $210 million dollar man.
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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #108: July 25, 2015, 12:59:14 PM »
Quote from: skippy1999 on July 25, 2015, 12:55:50 PM
Yea, seems like the more charming I find him the worse he pitches  :?

But Roark used to be mister consistency until Williams started jerking him around so I give him more of a pass than our $210 million dollar man.

I never thought we needed to do the Scherzer deal to begin with, but now I'm starting to think that Rizzo really got snookered...

...and we've ruined Roark in the process...


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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #109: July 25, 2015, 01:42:57 PM »
And I thought you people were reactionary before, mother of god
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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #110: July 25, 2015, 01:50:45 PM »
Quote from: Matugi on July 25, 2015, 01:42:57 PM
And I thought you people were reactionary before, mother of god

I see...gotta have faith, huh?  Sorry, maybe at $1MM per year like Tanner gets, not at $1MM per game pitched like Max gets...
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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #111: July 25, 2015, 01:52:50 PM »
Quote from: varoadking on July 25, 2015, 01:50:45 PM
I see...gotta have faith, huh?  Sorry, maybe at $1MM per year like Tanner gets, not at $1MM per game pitched like Max gets...

That you can even compare Roark with Scherzer and maintain a straight face and not feel a shred of shame about it is laughable.
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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #112: July 25, 2015, 01:56:07 PM »
Quote from: Matugi on July 25, 2015, 01:52:50 PM
That you can even compare Roark with Scherzer and maintain a straight face and not feel a shred of shame about it is laughable.

Roark was 15-10 last year.  Where does Scherzer end up this year sporting his oh so average 10-8 record?

And I screwed up...Roark is making $530K this year.  So Scherzer makes 56 times what Roark makes.  Worth it?  I think not...

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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #113: July 25, 2015, 02:00:11 PM »
Quote from: skippy1999 on July 25, 2015, 12:55:50 PM
Yea, seems like the more charming I find him the worse he pitches  :?

But Roark used to be mister consistency until Williams started jerking him around so I give him more of a pass than our $210 million dollar man.
If you could go back to getting all steamy over Tyler Moore, that would be great.
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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #114: July 25, 2015, 04:08:17 PM »
Quote from: varoadking on July 25, 2015, 01:56:07 PM
Roark was 15-10 last year.  Where does Scherzer end up this year sporting his oh so average 10-8 record?

And I screwed up...Roark is making $530K this year.  So Scherzer makes 56 times what Roark makes.  Worth it?  I think not...

>pitcher wins

im done
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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #115: July 25, 2015, 05:55:26 PM »
Bernie Sanders should include Sherzer in his anti-CEO and -banker screed
Quote from: varoadking on July 25, 2015, 01:56:07 PM
Roark was 15-10 last year.  Where does Scherzer end up this year sporting his oh so average 10-8 record?

And I screwed up...Roark is making $530K this year.  So Scherzer makes 56 times what Roark makes.  Worth it?  I think not...


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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #116: July 25, 2015, 06:09:47 PM »
Quote from: Ali the Baseball Cat on July 25, 2015, 05:55:26 PM
Bernie Sanders should include Sherzer in his anti-CEO and -banker screed

Senator Sanders' screeds should begin and end with the body of which he's a member. 
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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #117: July 26, 2015, 02:14:56 PM »
Pretty sure Scherzer is still the top pitcher in baseball by WAR?

Just checked, he is
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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #118: August 04, 2015, 12:45:51 PM »
Time to earn your money.
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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #119: August 04, 2015, 01:01:01 PM »
Quote from: madj55 on August 04, 2015, 12:45:51 PM
Time to earn your money.

he'll never do enough to earn all that money  >:(
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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #120: August 05, 2015, 09:38:09 AM »
He's regressing. To be expected I guess, he's always been around a 3 ERA SP, but we need him to be at a Cy Young level the last two months. 3 ER in 6 IP against Arizona is disappointing.
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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #121: August 05, 2015, 11:45:25 AM »
Quote from: Optics on August 05, 2015, 09:38:09 AM
He's regressing. To be expected I guess, he's always been around a 3 ERA SP, but we need him to be at a Cy Young level the last two months. 3 ER in 6 IP against Arizona is disappointing.

I think either C & D or Bob and FP were wondering if it was that stretch of all those complete game/8 inning games that has worn him down.  Would extra rest this month help do you think?
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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #122: August 05, 2015, 11:54:37 AM »
Quote from: skippy1999 on August 05, 2015, 11:45:25 AM
Would extra rest this month help do you think?


It would give him a longer offseason to recover
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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #123: August 05, 2015, 11:56:47 AM »
Quote from: HalfSmokes on August 05, 2015, 11:54:37 AM
It would give him a longer offseason to recover

ouch, ok not an option I guess. 
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Re: The $210 MM Appreciation Thread - Max Scherzer
« Reply #124: August 05, 2015, 12:09:24 PM »
Quote from: HalfSmokes on August 05, 2015, 11:54:37 AM
It would give him a longer offseason to recover

We seem to be on track for that...
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