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Offline skippy1999

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2325: October 08, 2014, 01:25:23 AM »
Ian is a good guy to have on the team, but he should not be batting 5th.

WHY???? I'd love some stat geek to tell me how many times Ian came through when we were behind because yea I know he hit some random homers and he had a good average with the bases loaded but how often did that flippin' happen?? How many times did he deliver a hit when we NEEDED it??? I'd really love to know, maybe I irrationally devalue Desi but he seems to be part of the problem, NOT a situational hitter and that's what we need, not a guy who'll hit a homer when we're up and/or down 10 runs already. 

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2326: October 08, 2014, 01:26:36 AM »
I'll give you that, but I'm wondering if it'll be worth a damn in the end given all of the massive problems this team has, going all the way up to the boneheaded manager who apparently trusts Barrett over Stephen freaking Strasburg.

Honestly, you could tell in game 1 that Span had reverted back to the April Span and that we were doomed. Of all the hitters I think I blame him the most.

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2327: October 08, 2014, 01:27:11 AM »
I thought he would be lights out this season. Hopefully he steps it up to the next level in 2015.

I think he will.  He was figuring it out towards the end of this year.  I think he pitched OK in Game 1.  Some seeing-eye singles and poor defense behind him changed the game.

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2328: October 08, 2014, 01:28:31 AM »
WHY???? I'd love some stat geek to tell me how many times Ian came through when we were behind because yea I know he hit some random homers and he had a good average with the bases loaded but how often did that flippin' happen?? How many times did he deliver a hit when we NEEDED it??? I'd really love to know, maybe I irrationally devalue Desi but he seems to be part of the problem, NOT a situational hitter and that's what we need, not a guy who'll hit a homer when we're up and/or down 10 runs already.

11th inning against the Phillies, back in 2013.  Bases juiced, 1 out, score 2-2.  Desi comes to the plate, gets to two strikes (fouls off a couple pitches), takes a SUPER close pitch up and in, then hits a line drive GS.

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2329: October 08, 2014, 01:29:35 AM »
Honestly, you could tell in game 1 that Span had reverted back to the April Span and that we were doomed. Of all the hitters I think I blame him the most.

His ABs grounding out to 2nd or 1st were ominous.

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2330: October 08, 2014, 01:29:52 AM »
I don't get it... I was so sure the Nats were winning this game easily. I just don't see how this happened.

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2331: October 08, 2014, 01:31:07 AM »
Nats Twitter is quiet.

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2332: October 08, 2014, 01:31:21 AM »
11th inning against the Phillies, back in 2013.  Bases juiced, 1 out, score 2-2.  Desi comes to the plate, gets to two strikes (fouls off a couple pitches), takes a SUPER close pitch up and in, then hits a line drive GS.

Are you being funny?  I can't tell, I'm too sad  :icon_frown:

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2333: October 08, 2014, 01:31:33 AM »
I don't get it... I was so sure the Nats were winning this game easily. I just don't see how this happened.

:(

When Harper homered I thought the series was won.

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2334: October 08, 2014, 01:31:55 AM »
Are you being funny?  I can't tell, I'm too sad  :icon_frown:

Your team didn't even make the playoffs.  :poke:

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2335: October 08, 2014, 01:32:07 AM »
N2P really hates MW
What Matt Williams did well in 2014:
1. The pitchers were not going to let runners on 1B steal at will anymore.
2. Nationals base runners were aggressive.
3. Ramos worked on throwing out runners trying to steal.
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Williams handling of the bullpen was atrocious and cost us games and this NL Division Series. The game was tied and Williams GAVE it away.  He didn't learn a thing all season regarding pitchers.




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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2336: October 08, 2014, 01:32:18 AM »
Are you being funny?  I can't tell, I'm too sad  :icon_frown:

Desi's had some big hits.  He was obviously awful the first two games this series, but he was instrumental in the runs scored in games 3 & 4.

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2337: October 08, 2014, 01:33:42 AM »
When Harper homered I thought the series was won.

So did I. I just knew the Nats were winning and going to roll Peavy in Game 5.

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2338: October 08, 2014, 01:36:31 AM »
Your team didn't even make the playoffs.  :poke:

Don't be mean to me, tonight sucks :(

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2339: October 08, 2014, 01:38:32 AM »
Don't be mean to me, tonight sucks :(

Feel bad for my dogs. Before this night is over I will take it out on them and they don't even know it yet. They're both dreaming but they are about to get a rude awakening.   :evil:

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2340: October 08, 2014, 01:38:38 AM »
Desi's had some big hits.  He was obviously awful the first two games this series, but he was instrumental in the runs scored in games 3 & 4.

I'm talking about the season though, he was NOT consistent this season he wasn't, we have too many guys who go cold far too much and he's one of them, I don't care about 20 something homers if he can't come through on a regular basis when it matters!

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2341: October 08, 2014, 01:40:30 AM »
I'm talking about the season though, he was NOT consistent this season he wasn't, we have too many guys who go cold far too much and he's one of them, I don't care about 20 something homers if he can't come through on a regular basis when it matters!

He had a bad season, I'll give you that.

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2342: October 08, 2014, 01:40:54 AM »
Adam Kilgore ‏@AdamKilgoreWP  4m4 minutes ago
Jayson Werth was devastated. He declined comment through a Nats pr staffer.

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2343: October 08, 2014, 01:40:54 AM »
Feel bad for my dogs. Before this night is over I will take it out on them and they don't even know it yet. They're both dreaming but they are about to get a rude awakening.   :evil:

Nope dogs are what will save your sanity right now, can't feel too angry when you're looking at your sweet pups :) Just remember, they'll never let you down like stupid baseball players who can't hit when it matters :(

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2344: October 08, 2014, 01:41:38 AM »
Adam Kilgore ‏@AdamKilgoreWP  4m4 minutes ago
Jayson Werth was devastated. He declined comment through a Nats pr staffer.

Good, I prefer that over Ian being such a good guy talking his head off about what a great season they had. 

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2345: October 08, 2014, 01:41:47 AM »
He had a bad season, I'll give you that.

He's had 3 bad seasons, 1 average season and 2 bad seasons.

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2346: October 08, 2014, 01:43:02 AM »
Nope dogs are what will save your sanity right now, can't feel too angry when you're looking at your sweet pups :) Just remember, they'll never let you down like stupid baseball players who can't hit when it matters :(

Damn you saved their asses because you're right. The only time they let me down is when they eat crap they find outside.   >:(

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2347: October 08, 2014, 01:43:19 AM »
Adam Kilgore ‏@AdamKilgoreWP  4m4 minutes ago
Jayson Werth was devastated. He declined comment through a Nats pr staffer.

He was 1 for 17.  I'm devastated!

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2348: October 08, 2014, 01:46:28 AM »
He was 1 for 17.  I'm devastated!

Praying he'll wake up tomorrow and realize he has a crappy swing, once and for all.  Probably not, though. :?

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Re: National League Division Series, Game 4
« Reply #2349: October 08, 2014, 01:46:37 AM »
He's had 3 bad seasons, 1 average season and 2 bad seasons.

His stats are kinda weird.  He's been on the decline in his avg since 2012 from .292 to .255 this year (his OPS also dropped, he was above .800 in 2012).  His HR rate is about the same, his RBIs are up (probably a function of batting higher in the order).  His Ks are obviously WAY up this year, but his walks were also slightly up.