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Offline tomterp

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Re: NL East Race Watch
« Reply #1775 on: August 14, 2014, 08:53:40 pm »
Was it MLB Network that clearly showed that Ramos wasn't blocking the plate until the ball carried him into the path? That showed that the call was right. Meanwhile, SportCenter showed it without talking about the part where the ball carried Ramos into the path, saying that the runner should have been called safe. Waching SportCenter is a waste most of the time anyway.

They were saying Ramos did not give a path to the plate, but in fact the runner slid past Ramos and caught plenty of the plate, though it was tight.  There was contact with Ramos also, but I think Ramos had the ball plenty ahead of possible contact and should have been good with what he did.

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« Reply #1776 on: August 14, 2014, 09:15:46 pm »
They were saying Ramos did not give a path to the plate, but in fact the runner slid past Ramos and caught plenty of the plate, though it was tight.  There was contact with Ramos also, but I think Ramos had the ball plenty ahead of possible contact and should have been good with what he did.
One program made it a point to show that Ramos was not blocking the plate until only after the ball was thrown and led him into the path, making it the correct call. I might have seen it on either Quick Pitch or ESPN's Baseball Tonight.

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Re: NL East Race Watch
« Reply #1777 on: August 14, 2014, 10:06:12 pm »
Six games! :clap:

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Re: NL East Race Watch
« Reply #1778 on: August 14, 2014, 11:00:51 pm »
w00t w00t   :twisted:

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« Reply #1779 on: August 14, 2014, 11:19:19 pm »
Six games! :clap:

We'll never catch the Barves at this rate...

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Re: NL East Race Watch
« Reply #1780 on: August 15, 2014, 12:18:18 am »
Road sweeps are fun.

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Re: NL East Race Watch
« Reply #1781 on: August 15, 2014, 01:46:05 am »
Six game lead. Would be a tickle if the Marlins or Mets overtook the Braves for second place.

Next year? The Braves might have lost so much pitching that they won't compete next year. Fillies look gone. Mets will have pitching next year, though they'll need to be careful with Harvey and Syndegaard will be a rookie. Likely the Mets need to find a couple of hitters by next year; will compete in 2016. Marlins? Maybe. 

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Re: NL East Race Watch
« Reply #1782 on: August 15, 2014, 03:24:00 am »
Dropped this little gem off over at the "Legend of Gattis" FB page earlier.

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« Reply #1783 on: August 15, 2014, 03:26:16 am »
crap, I'm drunk facebooking again.

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Re: NL East Race Watch
« Reply #1785 on: August 15, 2014, 07:14:16 am »
Last year on this date we were 14.5 games behind Atlanta.  In 2012, the year we finished with the best record in MLB, we were only 4.5 games up on Atlanta.

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Re: NL East Race Watch
« Reply #1786 on: August 15, 2014, 07:44:37 am »
Catching the Bucs at the right time. No McCutchen and they won't be throwing Lirano out there. Need win this series at home.

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Re: NL East Race Watch
« Reply #1787 on: August 15, 2014, 11:08:08 am »
Last year on this date we were 14.5 games behind Atlanta.  In 2012, the year we finished with the best record in MLB, we were only 4.5 games up on Atlanta.

FP said last night the largest lead the Nats had in '12 was 8.5 games in early September. 

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« Reply #1788 on: August 15, 2014, 11:35:02 am »
FP said last night the largest lead the Nats had in '12 was 8.5 games in early September. 

That was because the Braves were legitimately good that year. Heyward and Bourn had career years. Chipper Jones was still hitting well. Freeman came on strong towards the end of the season. Simmons had the only good year with the bat (well, 50 games). Their pitching was quite good as well, due to career years from Medlen and Hanson, and a bullpen that was deep as freak. Kimbrel, Venters, and O'Flaherty made for some quick games.

Ironically, I wanted the Barves to beat the Crads in the WC game, simply because we matched up so well against them. That was Gio's dominant year and Detwiler pitched them tough as well. With Sean Burnett, John Lannan, and  Tom Gorzalanny available, the Braves would have faced a steady diet of lefty pitching, which they struggled with.

Given how well the Nats were playing going in to the playoffs, if that ball had not been called an Infield Fly, the Nationals would have easily made it to the NLCS, and probably to the WS.

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« Reply #1789 on: August 15, 2014, 11:44:55 am »
That was because the Braves were legitimately good that year. Heyward and Bourn had career years. Chipper Jones was still hitting well. Freeman came on strong towards the end of the season. Simmons had the only good year with the bat (well, 50 games). Their pitching was quite good as well, due to career years from Medlen and Hanson, and a bullpen that was deep as freak. Kimbrel, Venters, and O'Flaherty made for some quick games.

Ironically, I wanted the Barves to beat the Crads in the WC game, simply because we matched up so well against them. That was Gio's dominant year and Detwiler pitched them tough as well. With Sean Burnett, John Lannan, and  Tom Gorzalanny available, the Braves would have faced a steady diet of lefty pitching, which they struggled with.

Given how well the Nats were playing going in to the playoffs, if that ball had not been called an Infield Fly, the Nationals would have easily made it to the NLCS, and probably to the WS.

Had it not been for Davey and his mismanagement of the pitching staff in Game 5, we would certainly have gone to the NLDS...

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Re: NL East Race Watch
« Reply #1790 on: August 15, 2014, 11:50:52 am »
Not arguing, but it wasn't Davey out there taking a crap on the mound.
Had it not been for Davey and his mismanagement of the pitching staff in Game 5, we would certainly have gone to the NLDS...

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Re: NL East Race Watch
« Reply #1791 on: August 15, 2014, 11:52:33 am »
Not arguing, but it wasn't Davey out there taking a crap on the mound.
This.

HOwever, I fault Davey for using Edwin Jackson. Not a good first inning guy. Was a horrid decision.

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Re: NL East Race Watch
« Reply #1792 on: August 15, 2014, 12:09:05 pm »
This.

HOwever, I fault Davey for using Edwin Jackson. Not a good first inning guy. Was a horrid decision.

Seemed like no good reason behind it other than hey it worked with Zimmermann

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« Reply #1793 on: August 15, 2014, 01:25:34 pm »
I remember the Nats not playing particularly well in September of 2012.  They put the division away in August, but held on in September.  That September included a sweep by the Braves, Strasburg's debacle against the Marlins after which he was shut down, Clip blowing a bunch of saves and basically losing his closer role, and the team backing into the division crown by losing to the Phillies.

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Re: NL East Race Watch
« Reply #1794 on: August 15, 2014, 02:03:40 pm »
We'll never catch the Barves at this rate...

What a nightmare of a season....

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« Reply #1795 on: August 15, 2014, 02:10:43 pm »
http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/50653/nationals-starting-to-live-up-to-expectations
This team is looking pretty damn good right now. If you told me before the season that with Harper, Zimmerman, Gio, and Strasburg all struggling the Nats would be in first in August I wouldn't have believed it. The uncertain expectations are simple to explain. When your team blows a 6-0 lead with your All-Star, Cy Young candidate ace on the mound at home in the close out game of your franchises's first ever playoff series, that buys a generation's worth of pessimism.

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« Reply #1796 on: August 15, 2014, 02:18:08 pm »
What a nightmare of a season....

dreadful. hellish really.

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« Reply #1797 on: August 15, 2014, 02:21:21 pm »
What a nightmare of a season....

Hey, that's my line, dick.

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Re: NL East Race Watch
« Reply #1798 on: August 15, 2014, 03:05:09 pm »
This team is looking pretty damn good right now. If you told me before the season that with Harper, Zimmerman, Gio, and Strasburg all struggling the Nats would be in first in August I wouldn't have believed it. The uncertain expectations are simple to explain. When your team blows a 6-0 lead with your All-Star, Cy Young candidate ace on the mound at home in the close out game of your franchises's first ever playoff series, that buys a generation's worth of pessimism.

That plus DC Sports pessimism.

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Re: NL East Race Watch
« Reply #1799 on: August 15, 2014, 03:49:04 pm »
8/15 v Pirates

For the Nationals
 CF Denard Span
 2B Asdrubal Cabrera
 3B Anthony Rendon
 1B Adam LaRoche
 SS Ian Desmond
 LF Bryce Harper
 C Wilson Ramos
 RF Michael A. Taylor
 RHP Tanner Roark