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Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: The Matt Williams Effect
« Reply #350 on: May 23, 2014, 03:36:43 pm »
alright I've been out of the loop a bit, who is Dobbs and where did he come from?  Wasn't Moore doing ok at 1st?  and why oh why is McLouth still on this team, is there truly no one better at AAA that could at least have a chance of getting a hit??

dobbs is a journeyman most recently cut by the Marlins. Rizzo took a dumpster dive

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Re: The Matt Williams Effect
« Reply #351 on: May 23, 2014, 03:37:18 pm »
We can only have players who hit or can field, never both.  it is The Nats Way.

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« Reply #352 on: May 23, 2014, 03:44:02 pm »
alright I've been out of the loop a bit, who is Dobbs and where did he come from?  Wasn't Moore doing ok at 1st?  and why oh why is McLouth still on this team, is there truly no one better at AAA that could at least have a chance of getting a hit??
Souza should've been starting in LF everyday since Harper went down.

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« Reply #353 on: May 23, 2014, 03:56:43 pm »
We can only have players who hit or can field, never both.  it is The Nats Way.

Truly seems that way :(

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Re: The Matt Williams Effect
« Reply #354 on: May 23, 2014, 06:15:33 pm »
Well, he's found a way to get Walters in the line up.

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« Reply #355 on: May 25, 2014, 06:25:28 am »
This could go in a number of threads (including the needed and yet to be started FIRE MATT WILLIAMS thread.  I mean why beat around the bush?) but I’ll put it here.  I just need to vent.

I wouldn’t have sent Strasburg out for the 7th inning but regardless of who pitched the 7th through the remainder of the game, they were going to HAVE to put up zeros, period, in order for the team to win.  I can’t imagine managing a team under these circumstances where you have no room for error.  If you can somehow get a lead, you’re entirely dependent upon the other team’s offense being as incompetent as the Nationals’ and NOBODY’S offense is as bad as the Nationals’.  They didn’t have a hit after the 5th inning.  Didn’t have a baserunner after the 6th.  The two runs they scored, the one run lead was going to have to hold up, regardless of who pitched the 7th, 8th and 9th innings.

The problem is that other teams don’t have the number of automatic outs the Nationals.  Denard Span was the only batter who had 5 at-bats, the “benefit” of leading off.  He went 0-5.  Espinosa is worse than last year’s Espinosa at his worst. Nate McLouth is, dollar for dollar, the worst of the long line of bad free agent signings Rizzo has made.  Greg Dobbs was DFA’d by the Marlins but he’s starting for the Nationals.  Hell, if you put together the best possible lineup, the best 8 bats, regardless of position, it would still be the worst lineup in the majors.

This team is in a really bad place, right now.

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« Reply #356 on: May 25, 2014, 09:55:23 am »
(including the needed and yet to be started FIRE MATT WILLIAMS thread.
I started that thread, the day he was hired, and said it was a "placeholder for when we need it".  But the moderators changed it to another title.

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« Reply #357 on: May 25, 2014, 12:23:00 pm »
I started that thread, the day he was hired, and said it was a "placeholder for when we need it".  But the moderators changed it to another title.

See http://www.wnff.net/index.php?topic=30210.0
Original thread title "Fire Matt Williams"

Offline Optics

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« Reply #358 on: May 26, 2014, 11:07:01 pm »
I'm fine with Stras pitching into the 7th. Your top pitchers gotta get you 7+ on a consistent basis. The ball is in Stras's court to lock the game down and he couldn't do it.

But this team still makes so many mistakes in regards to base running and fielding that it's mind boggling. Really there isn't much difference between Williams and Davey Johnson except Davey at least had this team playing real well for one year before it all fell apart.

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« Reply #359 on: May 27, 2014, 11:29:58 am »
I'm fine with Stras pitching into the 7th. Your top pitchers gotta get you 7+ on a consistent basis. The ball is in Stras's court to lock the game down and he couldn't do it.

But this team still makes so many mistakes in regards to base running and fielding that it's mind boggling. Really there isn't much difference between Williams and Davey Johnson except Davey at least had this team playing real well for one year before it all fell apart.
What's wrong with Storen to Clippard to Soriano?  You know, what we normally do when we try to nail down a win?

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« Reply #360 on: May 27, 2014, 11:32:06 am »
What's wrong with Storen to Clippard to Soriano?  You know, what we normally do when we try to nail down a win?

Or the offense could score a few more runs?  I know, pie in the sky.

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« Reply #361 on: May 27, 2014, 11:44:14 am »
Or the offense could score a few more runs?  I know, pie in the sky.
Teams are averaging 3.91 rpg in the NL. They need to get back to scoring 4 per game and they'll be fine. Having Storen-Clipp-Sori is a nice weapon to have though.

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« Reply #362 on: May 27, 2014, 03:30:44 pm »
No Danny tonight but McLouth again in LF:

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CF Denard Span
3B Anthony Rendon
RF Jayson Werth
1B Adam LaRoche
C Wilson Ramos
SS Ian Desmond
2B Kevin Frandsen
LF Nate McLouth
RHP Blake Treinen

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Re: The Matt Williams Effect
« Reply #363 on: May 27, 2014, 03:33:07 pm »
No Danny tonight but McLouth again in LF:

Nice. McLouth is gonna come through for us.

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Re: The Matt Williams Effect
« Reply #364 on: May 27, 2014, 03:44:24 pm »
Nice. McLouth is gonna come through for us.


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Re: The Matt Williams Effect
« Reply #365 on: May 27, 2014, 03:47:45 pm »
Nice. McLouth is gonna come through for us.

I'm liking the optimism.

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« Reply #366 on: May 27, 2014, 03:49:00 pm »
Nice. McLouth is gonna come through for us.
His swing looks so awful though. He rarely pulls anything for power. Just flips the ball weakly to the opposite field.

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« Reply #367 on: May 28, 2014, 02:17:24 pm »
What's wrong with Storen to Clippard to Soriano?  You know, what we normally do when we try to nail down a win?

There is nothing wrong with it, but when you have a chance to let your SP go 7+ and give your pen(or at least one guy in the pet)a night off you take it. Save them for those nights when Stras or any other pitcher can only go 5-6 IP.

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« Reply #368 on: June 08, 2014, 09:24:56 am »
I started a thread in spring training about being disturbed about some of Williams' managing decisions.  I'm disturbed again.

I've begged, pleaded and cajoled him to bunt so often that it's white noise at this point but how he manages in close games, particular late in close games is stupefying.  He's worse than Davey Johnson and I've never thought I could say that.

I'm firmly convinced that he is a too substantial part of the reason why team this team does so poorly when they score less than four runs.

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« Reply #369 on: June 08, 2014, 09:51:41 am »
What about the pitching? They have been good overall but they can never win a game when the offense scores less than 4. They just refuse to make the runs they get stand up.

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« Reply #370 on: June 08, 2014, 09:55:21 am »
Why does this team fold in 1 run and extra inning games?? The anti-2012 Nats.

Great bullpen yet we can't win any close games. Baffling.

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« Reply #371 on: June 08, 2014, 10:24:15 am »
What about the pitching? They have been good overall but they can never win a game when the offense scores less than 4. They just refuse to make the runs they get stand up.

It's easier to scratch across one run when you're willing to sacrifice the things necessary to get that one run than it is for your pitching to throw up zeros ad infinitum.

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« Reply #372 on: June 08, 2014, 11:26:53 am »
I don't get why he didn't have McLouth sac bunt Espinosa in the 10th last night. I mean against Huston Street, you just want to give yourself a chance to score one run and a man on 2nd 1 out at least gives us two chances to take the lead with a single.




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Re: The Matt Williams Effect
« Reply #373 on: June 08, 2014, 11:28:08 am »
PC's love affair with the bunt continues.

Offline HalfSmokes

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« Reply #374 on: June 08, 2014, 11:33:47 am »
I don't get why he didn't have McLouth sac bunt Espinosa in the 10th last night. I mean against Huston Street, you just want to give yourself a chance to score one run and a man on 2nd 1 out at least gives us two chances to take the lead with a single.





Or you could have three chances with a man on first