Author Topic: Follow the Non-Prospects: Danny Espinosa, 2B (Read 25029 times)

PC · « **Reply #175:** June 30, 2013, 09:21:53 PM »

Today's line 0 for 3, 2k ... batting average .107

Slateman · « **Reply #176:** June 30, 2013, 09:22:58 PM »

Quote from: PC on June 29, 2013, 12:11:21 PM

Played in the 2nd game of the DH yesterday, went 0 for 3, 1K... now batting .100.

Quote from: PC on June 30, 2013, 09:21:53 PM

Today's line 0 for 3, 2k ... batting average .107

Huh ... what happened in between?

Slateman · « **Reply #177:** June 30, 2013, 09:23:37 PM »

Quote from: welch on June 29, 2013, 06:32:31 PM

If Espinosa hit .275 and struck out about 15% of the time, his fielding would make him a starter, or at least would give the Nats a question among Espi, Rendon, RZim, and LaRoche.

If he could do that, he'd be a top 3 second baseman in baseball

mimontero88 · « **Reply #178:** June 30, 2013, 09:36:49 PM »

Quote from: Slateman on June 30, 2013, 09:23:37 PM

If he could do that, he'd be a top 3 second baseman in baseball

Yeah he doesn't have to hit .275. If he can hit .240 with his power when healthy he's a great player to have at 2B.

TigerFan · « **Reply #179:** June 30, 2013, 09:41:14 PM »

Quote from: Slateman on June 30, 2013, 09:22:58 PM

Huh ... what happened in between?

Nice catch slate. I was just copying the two quotes to figure out how a guys BA went up without getting a hit.

PC · « **Reply #180:** June 30, 2013, 09:55:03 PM »

Quote from: Slateman on June 30, 2013, 09:22:58 PM

Huh ... what happened in between?

He was 1 for 3 in the game in between. He's currently on a 1 for 19 stretch with 10K.

mimontero88 · « **Reply #181:** June 30, 2013, 09:56:36 PM »

Very ALR 2011-like. ALR had the same injury. I don't know why Danny can't connect the dots and just get the surgery.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #182:** June 30, 2013, 10:31:31 PM »

Quote from: PC on June 30, 2013, 09:55:03 PM

He was 1 for 3 in the game in between. He's currently on a 1 for 19 stretch with 10K.

So you were purposely omitting stats? Hmm.

welch · « **Reply #183:** June 30, 2013, 10:38:19 PM »

Quote from: mimontero88 on June 30, 2013, 09:36:49 PM

Yeah he doesn't have to hit .275. If he can hit .240 with his power when healthy he's a great player to have at 2B.

My instinct says that 15 homers a year is not much power when you lead the league in K's. Hit 50, lead the league in home runs, and striking out so much is not necessarily bad. Mantle led the league in K's about five times, but he hit 52 homers in '56 (that's from memory...) and averaged 36 homers a season over his entire career, including the years he played hurt.

mimontero88 · « **Reply #184:** June 30, 2013, 10:43:08 PM »

Quote from: welch on June 30, 2013, 10:38:19 PM

My instinct says that 15 homers a year is not much power when you lead the league in K's. Hit 50, lead the league in home runs, and striking out so much is not necessarily bad. Mantle led the league in K's about five times, but he hit 52 homers in '56 (that's from memory...) and averaged 36 homers a season over his entire career, including the years he played hurt.

From a middle infielder where offensive ineptness is commonplace, Espinosa's healthy career numbers are more than good enough.

Slateman · « **Reply #185:** July 01, 2013, 08:11:34 AM »

Quote from: PC on June 30, 2013, 09:55:03 PM

He was 1 for 3 in the game in between. He's currently on a 1 for 19 stretch with 10K.

Thanks

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on June 30, 2013, 10:31:31 PM

So you were purposely omitting stats? Hmm.

Typical liberal

Quote from: welch on June 30, 2013, 10:38:19 PM

My instinct says that 15 homers a year is not much power when you lead the league in K's. Hit 50, lead the league in home runs, and striking out so much is not necessarily bad. Mantle led the league in K's about five times, but he hit 52 homers in '56 (that's from memory...) and averaged 36 homers a season over his entire career, including the years he played hurt.

Agreed. Especially when you have Rendon, who could develop 10-15 home run power and hit 300 all the time.

Terpfan76 · « **Reply #186:** July 01, 2013, 08:27:35 AM »

Quote from: Slateman on July 01, 2013, 08:11:34 AM

ThanksTypical liberalAgreed. Especially when you have Rendon, who could develop 10-15 home run power and hit 300 all the time.

I can see Rendon becoming a 20-25 homerun hitter. He won't hit moon shots but as he fills out, with those quick wrists, I can see him adding more pop.

Slateman · « **Reply #187:** July 01, 2013, 08:32:16 AM »

Quote from: Terpfan76 on July 01, 2013, 08:27:35 AM

I can see Rendon becoming a 20-25 homerun hitter. He won't hit moon shots but as he fills out, with those quick wrists, I can see him adding more pop.

Maybe, but that's a stretch right now, especially in a place like Nats park. Now, if he played in Fenway or Yankee stadium, I'd agree.

Terpfan76 · « **Reply #188:** July 01, 2013, 08:44:37 AM »

Quote from: Slateman on July 01, 2013, 08:32:16 AM

Maybe, but that's a stretch right now, especially in a place like Nats park. Now, if he played in Fenway or Yankee stadium, I'd agree.

I'm not saying he'll hit that many right now, but in a few years I can see it.

welch · « **Reply #189:** July 01, 2013, 01:06:13 PM »

With Rendon's swing, he looks like a 20 - 25 HR guy who hits .300. That's the classic star, a Bernie Williams who happens to play infield.

Some home-run hitters do it with muscle: Mantle, Killebrew, Allison, Hondo. Some with the perfect swing: Aaron, Mays, Banks, F Robinson, Ted Williams. We can't expect him to become Aaron of Ted, but I hope Rendon continues to swing well and connect with the fat part of the bat. If he doesn't hit 40 homers, that's still good: try to be a hitter like Barry Bonds before steroids.

NJ Ave · « **Reply #190:** July 01, 2013, 01:48:09 PM »

George Brett.

welch · « **Reply #191:** July 01, 2013, 02:33:19 PM »

Quote from: NJ Ave on July 01, 2013, 01:48:09 PM

George Brett.

We could live with a new George Brett or Rod Carew.

imref · « **Reply #192:** July 02, 2013, 03:07:03 PM »

Quote from: welch on July 01, 2013, 01:06:13 PM

With Rendon's swing, he looks like a 20 - 25 HR guy who hits .300. That's the classic star, a Bernie Williams who happens to play infield.

Some home-run hitters do it with muscle: Mantle, Killebrew, Allison, Hondo. Some with the perfect swing: Aaron, Mays, Banks, F Robinson, Ted Williams. We can't expect him to become Aaron of Ted, but I hope Rendon continues to swing well and connect with the fat part of the bat. If he doesn't hit 40 homers, that's still good: try to be a hitter like Barry Bonds before steroids.

Rendon's short, easy swing reminds me of Pete Rose.

PC · « **Reply #193:** July 02, 2013, 10:47:55 PM »

Played both games of a DH today.

0 for 4, 1K in the first game BA - .100
0 for 4, 0K in the second game BA - .094 Notably he left 7 on base today in a game where Syracuse lost 6-5.

imref · « **Reply #194:** July 02, 2013, 10:56:55 PM »

Quote from: PC on July 02, 2013, 10:47:55 PM

Played both games of a DH today.

0 for 4, 1K in the first game BA - .100
0 for 4, 0K in the second game BA - .094 Notably he left 7 on base today in a game where Syracuse lost 6-5.

maybe they just shut him down, or send him to Potomac? there's really no justification for having him play right now.

mimontero88 · « **Reply #195:** July 02, 2013, 11:08:24 PM »

Quote from: imref on July 02, 2013, 10:56:55 PM

maybe they just shut him down, or send him to Potomac? there's really no justification for having him play right now.

No Potomac is having a good season. No need to ruin it. Just tell Espi he either gets the surgery he clearly desperately needs or he can have his walking papers. His call.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #196:** July 02, 2013, 11:27:03 PM »

Quote from: mimontero88 on July 02, 2013, 11:08:24 PM

No Potomac is having a good season. No need to ruin it. Just tell Espi he either gets the surgery he clearly desperately needs or he can have his walking papers. His call.

The Nats would never release him. He's far too valuable for that.

mimontero88 · « **Reply #197:** July 02, 2013, 11:28:46 PM »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on July 02, 2013, 11:27:03 PM

The Nats would never release him. He's far too valuable for that.

Not in his injured condition. And that's why I'd make the albeit empty threat. Someone needs to convince him that he needs to get the surgery.

welch · « **Reply #198:** July 02, 2013, 11:53:30 PM »

Quote from: mimontero88 on July 02, 2013, 11:28:46 PM

Not in his injured condition. And that's why I'd make the albeit empty threat. Someone needs to convince him that he needs to get the surgery.

Force Danny to have surgery. This is crazy. Painful to me, and I'm not him!

NJ Ave · « **Reply #199:** July 03, 2013, 10:27:32 AM »

It's one of the most self-destructive seasons I can remember a player having. Maybe he's afraid of the knife, like Laron Landry. There's no other excuse - I don't see how he can think, man, I'm in quite a slump, I'm hitting about .100 for the season and I can't hit the ball to the warning track. My shoulder's fine, but WHAT A SLUMP!