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Haren: Conundrum or Travesty?

Conundrum ("a difficult and confusing question or problem")
28 (45.9%)
Travesty ("a false, absurd, or distorted representation of something," in this case, a starting pitcher)
33 (54.1%)

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Offline skippy1999

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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum
« Reply #325: June 18, 2013, 02:11:20 PM »
Quote from: Ali the Baseball Cat on June 18, 2013, 01:27:58 PM
He should probably stop giving interviews.

"We have a lot of faith in him," manager Davey Johnson said. "He'll be fine."

Maybe Davey should too, no way he believes that drivel :roll:
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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum
« Reply #326: June 18, 2013, 02:17:12 PM »
Quote from: skippy1999 on June 18, 2013, 02:11:20 PM
"We have a lot of faith in him," manager Davey Johnson said. "He'll be fine."

Maybe Davey should too, no way he believes that drivel :roll:
What's he supposed to say?
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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum
« Reply #327: June 18, 2013, 02:20:26 PM »
Quote from: Smithian on June 18, 2013, 02:17:12 PM
What's he supposed to say?
I don't care what he says to the press, so long as he tells mike that we need to dump this guy and get someone who can keep his ERA under 5
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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum
« Reply #328: June 18, 2013, 02:21:40 PM »
Quote from: Smithian on June 18, 2013, 02:17:12 PM
What's he supposed to say?
I can handle "we have faith in him" but "he'll be fine" is taking it a bit far to me. 
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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum
« Reply #329: June 18, 2013, 02:22:29 PM »
Quote from: Smithian on June 18, 2013, 02:17:12 PM
What's he supposed to say?

"God he sucks.  Our general manager is an idiot for signing him.", ie, the truth.
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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum
« Reply #330: June 18, 2013, 02:25:57 PM »
Quote from: Ali the Baseball Cat on June 18, 2013, 01:17:12 PM
More like 1000, but what's a little dong between friends.



how many dong for some dome?
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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum
« Reply #331: June 18, 2013, 04:28:26 PM »
Quote from: spidernat on June 18, 2013, 12:39:35 AM
KenzAFan  :lol:

I miss cranky old Ken.  I was in Montreal a couple of weeks back and if I'd had a few hours to spare I would have looked him up.
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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum
« Reply #332: June 18, 2013, 04:42:49 PM »
Quote from: Terpfan76 on June 18, 2013, 02:25:57 PM

how many dong for some dome?
Five dolla. Gigi too big. Me love you long time.
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Offline mimontero88

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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum
« Reply #333: June 18, 2013, 04:54:28 PM »
Quote from: PC on June 18, 2013, 02:22:29 PM
"God he sucks.  Our general manager is an idiot for signing him.", ie, the truth.

Yeah those damn Executives of the Year who take a team from 100 losses to 98 wins over the span of three seasons.  Idiots I tell ya.
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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum
« Reply #334: June 18, 2013, 05:15:31 PM »
Quote from: mimontero88 on June 18, 2013, 04:54:28 PM
Yeah those damn Executives of the Year who take a team from 100 losses to 98 wins over the span of three seasons.  Idiots I tell ya.

Dan Haren.
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Offline mimontero88

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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum
« Reply #335: June 18, 2013, 05:19:06 PM »
Quote from: PC on June 18, 2013, 05:15:31 PM
Dan Haren.
Yeah those damn #5 starters and their failing.  We have four other pitchers pitching like aces but God damn if we shouldn't fire that GM for that awful #5 guy.
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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum
« Reply #336: June 18, 2013, 05:24:44 PM »
Quote from: mimontero88 on June 18, 2013, 05:19:06 PM
Yeah those damn #5 starters and their failing.  We have four other pitchers pitching like aces but God damn if we shouldn't fire that GM for that awful #5 guy.
We're paying that number 5 guy more than the other four. Oh and Nats have lost his last seven starts. Interestingly enough, that's how far back from the division we are ...
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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum
« Reply #337: June 18, 2013, 05:32:12 PM »
Quote from: mimontero88 on June 18, 2013, 04:54:28 PM
Yeah those damn Executives of the Year who take a team from 100 losses to 98 wins over the span of three seasons.  Idiots I tell ya.

those executives of the year who take 98 win teams and turn them into mediocre also rans (or do we not count this year- hard to keep track)
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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum
« Reply #338: June 18, 2013, 05:48:34 PM »
Quote from: Slateman on June 18, 2013, 05:24:44 PM
We're paying that number 5 guy more than the other four combined. Oh and Nats have lost his last seven starts. Interestingly enough, that's how far back from the division we are ...

FTFY
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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum
« Reply #339: June 18, 2013, 05:55:15 PM »
Mark Zuckerman @ZuckermanCSN

Davey Johnson with another show of support for Dan Haren today: "I've seen him pitch great ballgames. I know it's there." #NationalsTalk
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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum
« Reply #340: June 22, 2013, 12:42:50 PM »
Haren still sucks.
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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum
« Reply #341: June 22, 2013, 12:49:50 PM »
It isn't a conundrum anymore.  Quick definition of a conundrum is a difficult and confusing problem or question.  This is no longer difficult or confusing, just intolerable.

Of course, as I'm typing this, he racks up his 5h K and is holding the Rox.  Tease, not conundrum.
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Offline mmzznnxx

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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum
« Reply #342: June 22, 2013, 01:08:01 PM »
So the whole point of a one year deal in situations like this, is that if it doesn't work out and you have to cut bait, it's not that big of a deal.

It's pretty clear it's not working out. You can't just be giving away 1 out of 5 games and expect good things to happen.
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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum
« Reply #343: June 22, 2013, 01:08:48 PM »
Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on June 22, 2013, 12:49:50 PM
It isn't a conundrum anymore.  Quick definition of a conundrum is a difficult and confusing problem or question.  This is no longer difficult or confusing, just intolerable.

Of course, as I'm typing this, he racks up his 5h K and is holding the Rox.  Tease, not conundrum.

The Dan Haren Abortion?
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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum (or Travesty)
« Reply #344: June 22, 2013, 01:10:32 PM »
changed the title and added a poll
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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum (or Travesty?)
« Reply #345: June 22, 2013, 01:24:25 PM »
Its time for him to go to the pen or be waived. He's bringing nothing to the table at this point.
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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum (or Travesty?)
« Reply #346: June 22, 2013, 01:27:56 PM »
We need to let Ross Ohlendorf pitch until the deadline and if he can't get the job done we need to trade for a guy. We literally cannot afford to let Haren continue to start games for us; I doubt the is any pitcher getting consistent starts that is as bad as Dan Haren.
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Offline BigMeech

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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum (or Travesty?)
« Reply #347: June 22, 2013, 01:28:41 PM »
Just waive him. 
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Offline mimontero88

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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum (or Travesty?)
« Reply #348: June 22, 2013, 01:37:07 PM »
Quote from: ZimW1N on June 22, 2013, 01:27:56 PM
We need to let Ross Ohlendorf pitch until the deadline and if he can't get the job done we need to trade for a guy. We literally cannot afford to let Haren continue to start games for us; I doubt the is any pitcher getting consistent starts that is as bad as Dan Haren.
Statistically, no there is not.  Out of 100 pitchers who qualify Haren ranks 100th in OPS against.
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Offline DPMOmaha

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Re: The Dan Haren Conundrum (or Travesty?)
« Reply #349: June 22, 2013, 01:49:27 PM »
Quote from: Slateman on June 22, 2013, 01:08:48 PM
The Dan Haren Abortion?
not until they cut the cord.
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