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Offline KyleScha

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My MLB 2k7 Review (XBOX 360)
« on: March 03, 2007, 07:10:15 am »
Please pardon me if there are any weird sentences or anything, its 7am and for some reason I haven't gone to bed yet. EDIT: I went out and bought this game and I feel about the real game exactly how I did about the demo.

Graphics: 8/10
There is not a whole bunch to say about the graphics. They're good, great sometimes, with a few flaws. First I'll point out the flaws. While many of the player faces look great, some of them don't even look human. There are some repetitive textures in the field. The crowd looks just terrible, but none of these really matter. The blur effect is way overused also. The only real problem with graphics is the framerate suffers at times, which makes it less believable as real life.

The Good:
There are times when the graphics are excellent and at a short distance may look real at first glance. Most of the animations are very good, and many of the unique player animations are very convincing. Usually, the animations also flow fairly smoothly. Just as with the actual graphics, from a short distance. the animations are good enough to be mistaken for real life for a second. Another thing I'll add is the player uniforms are great. I was very skeptical about the uniforms which actually represent cloth in the game. They did a very convincing job, and what I thought would be a failed experiment actually looks very very good. The way the uniforms move as the players do, and the representation of baggy clothes works great as well. Also, I forgot to add this, but the hit by pitch animations are just superb. The movements themselves with the addition of the realistic acting uniforms makes it fun to just hit guys over and over again just to watch the animations. If you do anything in this game, do yourself a favor and start hitting some batters. The animations and realism of it will amaze you. In fact, its more fun than actually playing the game!

Overall, graphics are very good and the biggest strength of the game.


Sound: 7/10
The sound is not bad by far, but I think there are a few areas where it could be improved. For the most part, the announcers do a good job, but will too often say the wrong thing. They also get repetitive, but the overall they sound fluid and players names blend well. I think that the crack of the bat sound is way off. I don't hear any difference in sound depending on how the ball is hit, and it always sounds like someone got jammed. Even on homeruns, it sounds like the bat was on the edge of breaking. Minor complaint though. Crowds are well done, surround sound is implemented well enough.





Offline KyleScha

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Re: My MLB 2k7 Review (XBOX 360)
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2007, 07:12:50 am »
Gameplay: 5/10
I'll be honest here when I say as of now I only have the demo, but I think it still allows me a fair analysis of what I'm reviewing. At first I loved it, but I'm finding so many little problems with the gameplay that make me wonder if the makers of this game know anything about baseball.

The obvious problem is half of all hits are homeruns, and what is this with David Eckstein hitting an opposite field homeruns all the time?

Real life strategy does not work in this game, especially with pitching. Its a fact very few players can hit opposite field homeruns, and they are rare at that. I'm throwing way to many fastballs at the low outside corner of the strike zone and half the time they leave the park as homeruns. Too many high pitches are ground balls. There seems to be nothing that correlates where the pitch is and where it goes. That is half the challenge in hitting. You HAVE to take outside pitches the other way (swing later) or inside pitches you have to pull them. If not, you get dinky ground balls or pop ups. Not in this game though. As recently, I hit a 421 foot homerun to the opposite field on a high and inside pitch (I looked at the replay...the ball was at the trademark. In real life the bat probably would have shattered, but in this game its a homerun?)

You should infrequently give up homeruns if you hit the corners. If you watch in real baseball, most homeruns are mistakes by the pitchers leaving it in the middle. I'm all for being punished if you mess up the pitch circle timing thing, but if you hit your spots every time, and pitch smart, things should go great. They should just make the pitch circle harder to nail, but if you do nail it (and its in a good location) it should not be a HR half the time.

I think there is about an average of 10 homeruns per game. Its just ridiculous. Even with the power settings down. There are rarely any balls that go through the infield, either. Its a homerun, a popout, groundout or a strikeout. Not much else.

On the plus side of things, I love the actual pitching system. The payoff pitch is a great idea (in clutch situations, if you hit your spot the rating for that pitch will go up slightly). The break point is also great. You aim the cursor to where the pitcher throws the ball, not taking into account the break on the pitch. This gets interesting when you forget you have a lefthanded pitcher and throw a slider inside to a right handed batter. Whoops. Overall, gameplay wise the pitching mechanics are the best part of the game. Its too bad that it all goes to waste when you throw a 95mph fastball perfect at the high inside corner of the plate and it leaves the yard going 400 feet the opposite way.

Conclusion

All the problems make me mad because this game is so close to being great. If they applied some real life baseball strategy to it, fixed a few minor things it would be GREAT. But as it is, being a true baseball fan the game is hard to enjoy. For some casual play between your friends, or a visual benchmark for the 360, its great. But as I said, if you are looking for an authentic, realistic baseball game that requires real baseball strategy I'd look elsewhere. MVP 05 is still a much better game. If you have an original xbox, MVP 05 is probably 20 bucks now, and then with action replay (probably $20 or so) you can download updated rosters. I can almost promise you, for a good baseball experience, you enjoy playing the dated MVP 05 over the shiny 2k7. I hold out high hopes for 2008, as I realize this game is still a dramatic improvement to the (dreadful) 2k6 game. It is certainly a step in the right direction, but it isnt there yet.

Final Score:
As a videogame: 8.5/10
As something that is supposed to resemble baseball: 5.5/10
After playing the real game for about 5 or 6 hours I've come to a pretty simple solution. I HATE this game.

On a bit of a sidenote, if you are looking for a game for the 360 I highly recommend Rainbow Six: Las Vegas. It takes a lot of patience though, especially online. It takes a while to get good, and if you're not highly adept to video games you'll spend the first few dozen games struggling to get just a few kills. Once you get the hang of it (headshots! everything else is useless), its my favorite game since Halo.

Offline JMW IV

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Re: My MLB 2k7 Review (XBOX 360)
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2007, 09:39:20 am »
I'll have to take a little bit of issue with this, as I've got the full game.

I'm finding that the CPU catcher calls a pretty good game.  I very rarely shake off the catcher when I am pitching.

I've played 5 or 6 games so far, and I've yet to see a single HR from either me, or the CPU.  my experience with HRs has been the complete opposite of yours.

the frequency of hitting seems to be about normal to me, pretty realistic.  lots of put-outs, most hits are singles, with extra base knocks here and there. but then again, I could just suck at the game.

my only problem is I strike out a LOT.  I haven't mastered the timing of hitting yet, but I'm getting a good hang on the pitching.

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Re: My MLB 2k7 Review (XBOX 360)
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2007, 11:50:04 am »
If you don't mind, I'll just post mine in here as well.

Hitting: 9/10 
Swings are much faster, and a more realistic ground ball-fly ball ratio is present.

Baserunning:  6/10 
I say this because when you have a guy on first, the baserunning is fantastic, and stealing is simple and fun.  However, advancing a number of baserunners on a double is very sketchy.  A lot of times, stupid baserunning mistakes will be made, and the runners will take off running when you didn't tell them to.

Pitching:  9/10 
I definitely recommend you change the pitching camera to "behind batter."  The pitches are much faster, and batters will actually swing at well-placed balls.

Fielding:  9/10 
The only problem with the fielding is that the CPU will always make the diving stop, then throw you out at first.  Because of this, there is no such thing as an infield single.  But besides that, the fielding is easy and flawless.  You'll seldom find yourself (or the players) making stupid fielding mistakes like they did in last year's game.

Visuals:  10/10 
This game was touted because of it's visuals, and they are stunning.  The player models are amazingly life-like, and the fields are stunningly accurate and stunningly beautiful.

Difficulty:  7/10
Don't feel bad playing in Rookie mode, because I have to.  There are three difficulty settings, Rookie, Pro, and something else.  In pro mode, your batter does NOT make contact, and your pitches get clobbered way too often.  Not that I'm not up for the challenge, but it's rookie mode for me.

Game Modes:  9/10 
The one bad thing about MVP 2005 was it's owner mode.  Way too focused on finances, and not enough about the players.  It's like they didn't matter.  GM Mode is the same way.  However, Franchise mode is great, just like Dynasty mode in MVP 2005.  There are so many great new features, you just have to try it for yourself.

Overall:  8.5/10 
I was a little gun shy after the horrible MLB 2k6 game, but they really turned it around.  They kept the basic layout, but revamped the gameplay, and the slow-pacedness of MLB 2k6.  Also, they gave you all the little things, like a great soundtrack, great look and feel, and visuals that made you think you're watching a real game.  And I haven't even created a player yet.

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Re: My MLB 2k7 Review (XBOX 360)
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2007, 11:54:33 am »
KyleScha, are you sure you're playing MLB 2k6?  You're pretty much describing all the problem's with last year's game.  In MLB 2k7, from my experience, home runs are rare, maybe one or two a game, and never oppo.

I really don't know, but maybe the demo gameplay is different from the actual game, because what you're describing is, from my experience, completely off.

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Re: My MLB 2k7 Review (XBOX 360)
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2007, 11:56:42 am »
With sliders changing the gameplay, I give this game a 9 just for the fact that the graphics are the best in a sports game to date. The animations, the swings, the pitches, catches, everything is so good. So much more improved than last year. I've seen tons of webgems that are actually believeable.

With no sliders, a 8 out of 10 because well, HRs are too prevalent without slider adjustment.


2k6 - Klye has only played the demo, not even the full game.

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Re: My MLB 2k7 Review (XBOX 360)
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2007, 11:58:59 am »
2k6 - Klye has only played the demo, not even the full game.

Yeah I know, which makes me wonder if the demo gameplay is different from the actual gameplay (just a half-cocked theory)

Offline KyleScha

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Re: My MLB 2k7 Review (XBOX 360)
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2007, 03:53:24 pm »
Yeah, I hate to write a review on only the demo. I was just becoming so frustrated at it that I felt like writing something about it. It could just the demo is a bit tweaked to have it be a little more dramatic or something. Anyway, I'm glad you aren't having a problem with it.

I'm still probably going to buy this game though, especially if you aren't having these same problems. BTW, I've been playing on all-star mode. I certainly haven't mastered it seeing as I usually give up 3-4 homeruns in the last 3 innings each game (although I hit my spots perfect).

2k6nats, do you have xbox live?

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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2007, 11:52:42 pm »
2k6nats, do you have xbox live?

Here's my story about Xbox Live:

I bought my 360 this summer, and went Live-less for over six months.  Then, I got Live, and saw that the Silver membership was free.  So I thought that was great, because apparently a Silver membership granted you access to the Marketplace.  Also, you could apparently play against other people online.  So things went smoothly, and then after a month, I get this email saying:

Your 1 Month Xbox Live Gold free trial has expired.

 >:( :'( :-[ :evil:

After a few broken controllers and a smashed-in TV (just kidding) I realized that a Silver membership only grants you access to Marketplace.  As for a Gold membership, I'm working on it.  It'll probably be my next purchase.  But, if you have the urge to talk or message or something (Silver is good for that) my Gamertag is noobPWNR23

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Re: My MLB 2k7 Review (XBOX 360)
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2007, 12:18:56 am »
Okay. Yeah i recently too found out that the silver did not let you play online. I just bought a 3 month subscription though for 20 bucks. I'm probably going to buy 2k7 soon, but I've heard online play can be laggy. I'll see I guess. My gamertag is qwertyasdf (I was incredibly creative at the time).

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Re: My MLB 2k7 Review (XBOX 360)
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2007, 03:27:47 pm »
MadisonIV is my gamertag.

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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2007, 04:43:06 pm »
Mostwanted108 is mine, too.

XBL is what makes the 360 great. Every single person with a 360 absolutely has to have it.

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Re: My MLB 2k7 Review (XBOX 360)
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2007, 09:12:51 pm »
yup.

hey, here is a very cool thing for Xbox Live users:

http://www.360voice.com/tag/MadisonIV

there's mine.

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Re: My MLB 2k7 Review (XBOX 360)
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2007, 09:39:07 pm »
I got your invite Madison. Haha I have seen that thing before.

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Re: My MLB 2k7 Review (XBOX 360)
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2007, 07:38:56 pm »
yup.

hey, here is a very cool thing for Xbox Live users:

http://www.360voice.com/tag/MadisonIV

there's mine.

Gamerscore: 550?  Weak.

Mine? 2,480.  Oh yeah.

;)

And hold on there, do you play Oblivion?  Because that is like the greatest game ever.  I've beaten it four times of course, but......yeah.  I've gotten every achievement for that game.

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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2007, 08:44:06 pm »
My gamerscore is about 6,000. Oh yeah.

;)


And oh yeah, I don't play for achievements if you're wondering. I just am that good. haha

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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2007, 08:54:59 pm »
My gamerscore is about 6,000. Oh yeah.

;)


And oh yeah, I don't play for achievements if you're wondering. I just am that good. haha

Holy crap man!  What do you play?

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Re: My MLB 2k7 Review (XBOX 360)
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2007, 12:31:38 pm »
I have played about 5 or 6 games so far, and I agree with JMAD.   I have hit only one HR myself (Zim) and have given up only 4 or 5, so I don't think that there are too many home runs by any means.  I'm pretty good at pitching, so/so on defense (I tend to overrun the ball a lot, misplaying singles into triples), make a lot of baserunning errors, and am atrocious at batting.  I strike out way too often.  I'm using the swing stick for the first time, so I hope to get better.

Overall, I really like the game but there are a few little glitches that I've encountered that tend to take away from the overall experience:

Last night, I lost a game to the D-Backs because it counted a run that scored on an inning-ending 6-4-3 double play.  I was furious.  It is ridiculous for a baseball game to have this kind of programming mistake.

Miguel Cabrera was credited with an RBI when a run scored on a WP while he as at the plate

The announcers frequently call the wrong names.   Nick Johnson made a nice grab at first and Joe Morgan starts complimenting Brian Schneider.

When a switch hitter comes to the plate and is batting from the opposite side from the previous time he came to the plate, he is wearing his helmet with the ear flap on the wrong side in the cut scene during his walk up.  It magically appears on the correct side when he gets in the box.

Fans are wearing short sleeves while it is so cold that you can see the players breath

These glitches take it from a 9 in my book to about a 7 (it would knock it down to only an 8.5 except for the first one about counting a run scoring on an inning-ending double play)

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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2007, 04:10:15 pm »
LetsGoNats, which system do you have the game for?

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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2007, 06:45:43 pm »
XBOX 360

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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2007, 06:51:03 pm »

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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2007, 07:26:04 pm »
LOL, sorry, I just love it when people complain about things like the ear-flap on a batting helmet and that influences their game ratings.


I guarantee you, if you LOOK for problems, you won't enjoy the game.

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Re: My MLB 2k7 Review (XBOX 360)
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2007, 08:03:26 pm »
Holy crap man!  What do you play?

GRAW
NHL 07
Madden 06/07
NHL 2k6
College Hoops 2k6/2k7
NBA 2k6
Oblivion
Blazing Angels
Call of Duty 2/3
Gears
RB 6: Vegas
MLB 2k7/2k6


soon GRAW 2

and im forgetting the stuff my brother did in NFS: Carbon this past week as well as what he did in Oblivion, and some games.


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Re: My MLB 2k7 Review (XBOX 360)
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2007, 08:13:38 pm »
LOL, sorry, I just love it when people complain about things like the ear-flap on a batting helmet and that influences their game ratings.


I guarantee you, if you LOOK for problems, you won't enjoy the game.

First, I didn't say that the ear flap thing affected the ratings.  However, it looks stupid and I don't think when I pay $60 for a game it's too much for them to clean up stuff that should have easily been noticed in testing.

The fact that the game allows a run to count on an inning-ending double play is completely inexcusable.  Why not have home runs count as 2 runs also?

Lastly, I really want to like the game and, on balance, I do (I rated it 8 out of 10).  It's just unfortunate that 2k sports has the exclusive license for MLB games on multiple platforms.   

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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2007, 12:09:07 am »
I don't much follow consoles these days but can't they patch Xbox360 games ala PC to fix problems like that?