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Offline Ali the Baseball Cat

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« Reply #825 on: February 02, 2017, 04:56:53 pm »
Blame Jimmy Buffett for that. The middle keys are probably a better bet nowadays.
i agree, key west is disney level fake, just one tourist trap after another

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« Reply #826 on: February 02, 2017, 04:59:50 pm »
I spent a week in St. Lucia this January and it is lovely but it's a rather large island and the roads are typical Caribbean roads so it takes a long time to get anywhere if you want to see sights on the island. You can actually climb one of the Pitons which are the iconic triangle-shaped St. Lucia mountains. We climbed Gros Piton. It was rugged and not for the faint hearted especially at my age but I felt like $1 million when I made it to the top.

Caribbean islands are so different and it's hard to make a recommendation without more information.  If you're looking for casinos and golf courses and nightlife Saint Maarten or Saint Kitts or Barbados would fit the bill nicely. Aruba is nice but it's way down just north of South America and is a long long flight. If you're looking for quiet some of the tinier islands like Bequia would be good. Saint Barts has a reputation of being pricey but if you go in the off-season you can rent a small private Villa for not much more then you'd pay for a week at Ocean City.

 And of course if you want to stay in this country nothing beats the Florida Keys in my book. Marathon is about halfway down very very quiet and laid-back with some excellent snorkeling.  And then of course there's nothing like Key West!

Big thing I'm looking for would be peace and quiet. Fewer kids is nice, no kids is real nice. I'd like warm sand, clear water, and moderate waves, say 4' max. Probably the best I can say would be something like Rehoboth with clearer water, fewer people, less noise, and just generally chill. Don't need a party place, don't need neon, don't need casinos. Just somewhere to detox from the tech that I'm immersed in 24/7.

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« Reply #827 on: February 02, 2017, 05:03:53 pm »
If you scuba dive (or want to learn) the Cayman Islands have excellent beach diving.  You can set up an offshore account for your insider trading proceeds while you are there. 

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« Reply #828 on: February 02, 2017, 05:13:51 pm »
I've been meaning to do that for years but I'm always in a rush when I'm on that side of security.  Thanks for the heads up, I'll just bite the bullet & hit the downtown office.  Of course I'll probably be denied due to all the crap NSA has collected from my posts in Uncensored. 
I fly so much to New Hampshire that I've made "gold" level in the American frequent flyer program and get automatice pre-check this year.

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« Reply #829 on: February 02, 2017, 05:42:19 pm »
I've been meaning to do that for years but I'm always in a rush when I'm on that side of security.  Thanks for the heads up, I'll just bite the bullet & hit the downtown office.  Of course I'll probably be denied due to all the crap NSA has collected from my posts in Uncensored. 

As much as you get around I'd have figured you for being a charter member.  :lol:

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« Reply #830 on: February 02, 2017, 05:46:42 pm »
Any of you ever been to the Destin/Pensacola/Panama City area?  We're looking at heading there in April for spring break and are trying to decide where to stay along the coast.

Panama City where 500k college spring breakers descend every year.  :cheers:

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« Reply #831 on: February 02, 2017, 05:54:06 pm »
Panama City where 500k college spring breakers descend every year.  :cheers:

South Padre Island was a bit of a scene when I went fishing there one spring.  Two old guys fishing and 10,000 coeds playing thong volleyball.     :hysterical:

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« Reply #832 on: February 02, 2017, 08:46:07 pm »
Ah, loaves & fishes

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« Reply #833 on: February 03, 2017, 08:03:38 am »
For those who fly if you haven't signed up for the TSA Precheck you might want to sign up quick before they stop signing up new applicants.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tsa-precheck-free-075946894.html

Problem with that is, the airline you're flying has to be a member of TSA Pre in order for you to participate...and unfortunately neither of the two airlines I fly (British Airways and KLM) are members. (I'm already in Global Entry and if either of those two airlines joined I'd join in a heartbeat. Fortunately, I haven't had any problems with long security queues recently, probably due to the times I fly out.)

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« Reply #834 on: February 03, 2017, 10:16:56 am »
Big thing I'm looking for would be peace and quiet. Fewer kids is nice, no kids is real nice. I'd like warm sand, clear water, and moderate waves, say 4' max. Probably the best I can say would be something like Rehoboth with clearer water, fewer people, less noise, and just generally chill. Don't need a party place, don't need neon, don't need casinos. Just somewhere to detox from the tech that I'm immersed in 24/7.

If you really really want to get away from it all, Bequia (one of the Grenadines) is probably a good bet.  English speaking, quiet beaches, friendly folks, and a local 169 proof rum that goes down very easily in a rum punch and will kill you if you have more than two.  I like the Friendship Bay area personally but it's hard to go wrong anywhere there. Usually you fly into Barbados then take a small plane to Bequia - if you're not a steady flyer, you may not be happy in a 8-10 passenger propeller plane.  St. Barth is also quiet, with amazing beaches - you could go to a different beach almost every day of the week.  It's a small island, so it's never more than a 20 minute drive to get anywhere. It's so small that a few years ago my hubby was actually able to circumnavigate it on a jet ski. It's frequented by the super rich, who apparently never go to the beach, because the beaches are uncrowded, even in high season. It's best that you have some basic French, and it is pricey, but if you are willing to go in low season, you can rent a small private villa at a reasonable rate.  Our favorite is Villa Sud Ouest: http://stbarth.com/villas/detail/sudou/sud-ouest.  Private villa with pool for $1670 a week in low season. Getting to St. Barth is by way of St. Maarten then you either take the ferry or a 10 minute famously hair-raising flight in a very small plane to get there.

Larger islands are more populated, but are a lot easier to get to in a normal size plane.  With a little searching you can find some quiet nooks where cruise ship tourists tend not to go. St. Kitts is nice, English-speaking, with pretty beaches complete with beach shack bars, an extinct volcano for hiking, a World Heritage Site fort, and even the gravesite of Samuel Jefferson, whose g-g-g-grandson was some guy named Thomas Jefferson.  The Timothy Beach Resort is a low-key condo place - not luxurious, but you get can full apartments with a separate bedroom and full kitchen at a reasonable price. If you're going in high season, check the cruise ship schedule - if there are two large ships there on the same day, they tend to overwhelm some of the more popular tourist sites, so that's a day to stay at your hotel and enjoy the pool or nearest beach. St. Maarten is also nice with some lovely beaches.  And as mentioned before, St. Lucia is a bit larger, but relaxing, especially at some of the smaller bays and beaches.  But it is large, so if you want to see different sites on the island, then plan on either renting a car, shelling out a fortune for taxis, or braving the local jitney buses. 

Whatever you do, I would highly recommend that you rent a place with a kitchen or at least a kitchenette.  Even if you go out to dinner most nights, having a place where you can make coffee and your own breakfast in the morning, then come in from the beach and make a few sandwiches and a cold beer for lunch will save you a fortune.

Also, about Key West - I agree completely that it's anything but quiet - sorry I wasn't clear in my post about that.  But it is fun for a day or two, but agree that the Middle Keys are a much better bet for quiet.

You're making me want to plan my next trip to the islands!

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« Reply #835 on: February 03, 2017, 10:20:53 am »
Problem with that is, the airline you're flying has to be a member of TSA Pre in order for you to participate...and unfortunately neither of the two airlines I fly (British Airways and KLM) are members. (I'm already in Global Entry and if either of those two airlines joined I'd join in a heartbeat. Fortunately, I haven't had any problems with long security queues recently, probably due to the times I fly out.)

After one too many horrible waits to clear customs in Miami, I bit the bullet and got Global Entry.  I just had my interview and was approved on Tuesday.  The great thing they told me is that Global Entry holders automatically get PreCheck as part of the deal (if the airline participates).

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« Reply #836 on: February 03, 2017, 12:19:50 pm »
If you scuba dive (or want to learn) the Cayman Islands have excellent beach diving.  You can set up an offshore account for your insider trading proceeds while you are there.

Thanks Ali. I am US and British dive certified, but it's been a LOOONG time since I dove. Would love to see if I couldn't get the wife to give it a shot with me, but she's afraid of even trying a pool dive.

If you really really want to get away from it all, Bequia (one of the Grenadines) is probably a good bet.   *snip for length*
You're making me want to plan my next trip to the islands!

wj73, thanks so very much for this! Tons of great info and definitely a good jumping off point to start looking into trips and such. Super helpful.

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Re: "Holiday Road" - The Official Vacation Thread
« Reply #837 on: February 03, 2017, 12:24:45 pm »
After one too many horrible waits to clear customs in Miami, I bit the bullet and got Global Entry.  I just had my interview and was approved on Tuesday.  The great thing they told me is that Global Entry holders automatically get PreCheck as part of the deal (if the airline participates).

Originally TSA Pre just included US-flag carriers but more recently some foreign flag carriers (Aeromexico, Lufthansa and I think a couple of others*) have joined at Dulles so there may be hope there.

If I needed anything to convince me that joining Global Entry was the right course of action, it occurred this past July when I was flying back from Riga. My KLM flight arrived at 15.35 and while I was waiting for my luggage I saw the prime-time customs queue...it went all the way to the other end of the baggage claim area then doubled back on itself 1 1/2 times (and there was a Lufthansa A380 that had
just landed right after my flight, ready to discharge another big group of passengers into that queue). Was I ever glad I had Global Entry!


*[updated 6th Februsary] Checked the TSA site and found that Air Canada, Avianca, Emirates, Etihad and Virgin Atlantic have also joined TSE Pre at Dulles...come on BA and KLM, get with the programme!

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« Reply #838 on: February 03, 2017, 05:13:15 pm »
I pulled a Usain Bolt bolt when I saw an Air France A380 reaching a gate right before my plane did.  That's 45 minutes I'd rather not spend stuck in a crush of humanity.
(and there was a Lufthansa A380 that had just landed right after my flight, ready to discharge another big group of passengers into that queue).

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« Reply #839 on: February 21, 2017, 08:48:47 pm »
Scotland  ...   At this time, missus and I have about enough to get us to Edinburgh (RT).    We'd like to do something in 2018.     Edinburgh/A82 ..  Loch Ness/St. Andrews definitely on the list.     Missus is not a hiker and I'm not a large group tour (10 people maybe at most) person.     In '85, I did 2 weeks in England and Wales.    Rented a car after 5 days in London.     I'd like to start with the same kind of plan in Scotland maybe with a few days in Edinburgh to finish it off.     Any ideas?     Maybe I'll start a go fund me site  ...   :)

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« Reply #840 on: February 21, 2017, 09:01:58 pm »
Scotland  ... 

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Missus is hung up on going to our motherland...Ireland...but I found it sort of meh when I was there 10 years ago.  One big attraction is that we can fly from Dublin over to wherever that is in England where Doc Martin is filmed. 

I love London...and Scotland has my interest...

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« Reply #841 on: February 21, 2017, 09:29:56 pm »
Thinking about taking the wife and three kids under 6 to Portugal this September. God help me.

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« Reply #842 on: February 21, 2017, 09:30:16 pm »
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Missus is hung up on going to our motherland...Ireland...but I found it sort of meh when I was there 10 years ago.  One big attraction is that we can fly from Dublin over to wherever that is in England where Doc Martin is filmed. 

I love London...and Scotland has my interest...

Looks like Aer Lingus (change in Dublin to Edinburgh) is the cheapest out of Dulles.     I told the missus Plan B could be a few days in Dublin.    I was used and abused by London (loved roamin' the whole damn city).    It's certainly just another big city in some ways but man there's a lot hidden around every corner.    I really enjoyed being on my own with no "on the bus off the bus" routine.

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« Reply #843 on: February 21, 2017, 09:53:26 pm »
If you don't mind a change somewhere there are plenty of cheap ways to get to Scotland (KLM, Icelandair from BWI, etc).  Shoulder season (May/September) is a lot cheaper than summer.  Maybe Brexit will have happened by then and the pound will be in even worse free fall than the Drumpfmark.
Looks like Aer Lingus (change in Dublin to Edinburgh) is the cheapest out of Dulles.     I told the missus Plan B could be a few days in Dublin.    I was used and abused by London.    It's certainly just another big city in some ways but man there's a lot hidden around every corner.    I really enjoyed being on my own with no "on the bus off the bus" routine.

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« Reply #844 on: February 21, 2017, 09:56:17 pm »
If you don't mind a change somewhere there are plenty of cheap ways to get to Scotland (KLM, Icelandair from BWI, etc).  Shoulder season (May/September) is a lot cheaper than summer.  Maybe Brexit will have happened by then and the pound will be in even worse free fall than the Drumpfmark.

I still have 700 or so pounds from my '85 trip.    I think the exchange was $1.09 per pound at the time.    Picked up a real nice cashmere overcoat (still pretty spiffy after 30 some years).      I'm trying to avoid BWI though I know fares are cheaper.     It's a long haul from home.

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« Reply #845 on: February 22, 2017, 01:54:30 pm »
I tried driving on the wrong side of the rode once in the UK. #NeverAgain


Scotland  ...   At this time, missus and I have about enough to get us to Edinburgh (RT).    We'd like to do something in 2018.     Edinburgh/A82 ..  Loch Ness/St. Andrews definitely on the list.     Missus is not a hiker and I'm not a large group tour (10 people maybe at most) person.     In '85, I did 2 weeks in England and Wales.    Rented a car after 5 days in London.     I'd like to start with the same kind of plan in Scotland maybe with a few days in Edinburgh to finish it off.     Any ideas?     Maybe I'll start a go fund me site  ...   :)

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« Reply #846 on: February 22, 2017, 04:53:23 pm »
I tried driving on the wrong side of the rode once in the UK. #NeverAgain



It was an adventure early on.   Once I got away from London, it wasn't too bad.   I did have a close encounter with a motorcycle in Wales.    Woman at the rent-a-car place at Heathrow was explaining "round abouts" to me and bearing left.     She asks, "You know why they call 'em round abouts?".      Shook my head "no".     She sez, "Once you get into 'em, you can go round about as many times as you need to before you get off."       :rimshot:

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« Reply #847 on: February 22, 2017, 06:18:50 pm »
It was an adventure early on.   Once I got away from London, it wasn't too bad.   I did have a close encounter with a motorcycle in Wales.    Woman at the rent-a-car place at Heathrow was explaining "round abouts" to me and bearing left.     She asks, "You know why they call 'em round abouts?".      Shook my head "no".     She sez, "Once you get into 'em, you can go round about as many times as you need to before you get off."       :rimshot:
They have lots of those in New Jersey also. Not a good idea.

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« Reply #848 on: February 22, 2017, 06:23:21 pm »
They have lots of those in New Jersey also. Not a good idea.

Seems VA now thinks it's a good idea.

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« Reply #849 on: February 22, 2017, 06:26:09 pm »
Seems VA now thinks it's a good idea.
The ones in south jersey were hell. I think most of them they converted to "normal" intersections. If you already know where you are going it's fine.  Otherwise it just creates risky situations. Remember going around one of the ones in DC a coupe of times on one of my first visits here.